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+Multimedia-chat-meeting-2017-05-24
+
+<pinchartl> hello  [15:55]
+<uli___> hi
+<kbingham> Morning!  [15:56]
+<pinchartl> I see that everybody has provided status reports by e-mail,
+	    excellent :-)  [15:57]
+<pinchartl> I know that Jacopo is awake  [15:58]
+<pinchartl> how about neg ?
+<morimoto> Hi  [15:59]
+<jmondi> Hello there
+<pinchartl> let's still wait a few minutes for Niklas  [16:00]
+<dammsan> hi guys  [16:01]
+<pinchartl> hopefully Niklas will join us soon  [16:02]
+<pinchartl> let's get started
+<pinchartl> topics for today
+<pinchartl> 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks
+<pinchartl> 2. Additional tasks for Q2/2
+<pinchartl> 3. Meeting in Japan
+<pinchartl> anything else ?  [16:03]
+<pinchartl> I'll take that as a no  [16:04]
+<pinchartl> Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks  [16:05]
+<pinchartl> let's see who posted his report last...
+* uli___ hides
+<pinchartl> Ulrich, you can start :-)
+<uli___> so i copied the blanche board's serial-multiplex max9260 setup using
+	 wires and breakout boards  [16:06]
+<uli___> and wrote a stub serdev driver to access it
+<uli___> that works on the blanche board as well
+<uli___> but that needed a little infrastructure (pin control)
+<uli___> then i resent the gose video input series with updated dt bindings
+								        [16:07]
+<uli___> there are numerous variations of the adv7180
+<uli___> but we only care about whether they have 3 or 6 inputs
+<pinchartl> yes, it's painful :-/
+<uli___> to i added two compat strings ("adv7180cp" and "adv7180st", iirc)
+<uli___> to avoid bloat
+<uli___> rob herring acked it  [16:08]
+<uli___> next thing to do is to probe around the chromebook board to look for
+	 a uart or something else we can use to get debug output
+<geertu> uli___: To which variant does the existing "adi,adv7180" correspond
+	 to?
+<uli___> "unknown", i suppose
+<pinchartl> I'll review the DT bindings  [16:09]
+<pinchartl> (and the other patches)
+<uli___> thank you  [16:10]
+<pinchartl> next in report order, neg
+<pinchartl> who doesn't seem to be here
+<pinchartl> I'll copy his e-mail report for now
+<pinchartl> since last meeting
+<pinchartl>     - [PATCH v2 0/2] v4l2-async: add subnotifier registration for
+	    subdevices
+<pinchartl>     - [PATCH v2 0/2] media: entity: add operation to help map DT
+	    node to media pad
+<pinchartl>     - [PATCH v7 0/2] media: rcar-csi2: add Renesas R-Car MIPI
+	    CSI-2 support
+<pinchartl>     - [PATCH v2 00/17] rcar-vin: fix issues with format and
+	    capturing
+<pinchartl> for the next two weeks:  [16:11]
+<pinchartl>   * Post:
+<pinchartl>     - [PATCH v5 00/28] rcar-vin: Add Gen3 with media controller
+	    support
+<pinchartl>   * Attend OSS Japan and PeriPeri
+<pinchartl> next  [16:12]
+<pinchartl> jmondi:  [16:13]
+<pinchartl> your turn
+<jmondi> here I am
+<jmondi> let me paste the email content a bit
+<jmondi> since last meeting
+<jmondi> - Migo-R machine init with new CEU driver: got both sensor probing
+								        [16:14]
+<jmondi> - Sensor drivers (ov772x and tw9910) removed soc_camera dependencies
+<jmondi> - add support for multiple sub-devices to CEU driver
+<jmondi> - started playing with notifiers on max9268 driver and 8-ch camera
+	 setup  [16:15]
+<jmondi> for the next two weeks
+<jmondi> - max9682 startup sequence
+<jmondi> - split max9268 and max9271 drivers
+<jmondi> - add support for OF to CEU driver and use camera module on GR-Peach
+	 board  [16:16]
+<pinchartl> I'll add "- OSS Japan and multimedia meeting" to that list
+<jmondi> ah, right!
+<jmondi> I forgot I had to take a plane on Friday
+<jmondi> :)
+<jmondi> do we need to add accepted bug fixes to status report?  [16:17]
+<pinchartl> no
+<jmondi> ok, then --eot--
+<pinchartl> Morimoto-san's script to pick them up works :-)
+<jmondi> I knew it was like that for Core/IO, just wanted to make sure for mm
+	 is the same...  [16:18]
+<neg> sorry for beeing late
+<morimoto> jmondi: my script is collecting bugfix patch from our related ML
+<pinchartl> hi Niklas
+<jmondi> morimoto: great!  [16:19]
+<morimoto> jmondi: Thanks anyway
+<pinchartl> next in report order, kbingham
+<kbingham> I've been mostly working on ADV748x related tasks, and trying to
+	   get it's dependencies sorted.  [16:20]
+<kbingham> With that - I have done 4 spins of the V4L2 async matching updates,
+	   which I think are now ready and are going through Sakari's branches
+	   I believe.
+<kbingham> I need to discuss with Niklas what we will do about the link issues
+	   that are not created in RVin
+<kbingham> but I think for now - just using static immutable links in the ADV
+	   is fine.  [16:21]
+<kbingham> I have also done two spins of the ADV748x driver itself with plenty
+	   of review comments from both Laurent and Sakari which I have been
+	   working through.
+<kbingham> The last 'big tasks' for me before another repost is to try to get
+	   regmap in place.
+<kbingham> I have also done some review and maintenance work for the VSP1-DU
+	   patches, and I have also got my remote access set up so I can boot
+	   the Salvator-X without a wire in my laptop - This makes me happy :)
+<kbingham>  - Next up for me is of course the Japan trip, I leave for London
+	   on Thursday evening, and fly out Friday morning. And hopefully one
+	   or two final posts of the ADV748x  [16:22]
+<kbingham> -- eot --
+<morimoto> ? kbingham: do you come to japan ?  [16:23]
+<kbingham> morimoto: I am yes :)
+<kbingham> morimoto: I need you to teach me how to speak Japanese in the next
+	   3 days :)
+<morimoto> OK, so, total 5 periperi from Europe ?
+<morimoto> Laurent/Niklas/Marek/Jacopo/Kieran  [16:24]
+<pinchartl> morimoto: correct
+<morimoto> OK, thanks
+<dammsan> will marek join the m/m meeting?
+<pinchartl> dammsan: no, he will land on Tuesday evening I believe  [16:25]
+<dammsan> ok, so monday lunch how many people? =)
+<dammsan> 6 from our side?
+<jmondi> o/
+<morimoto> o/
+<pinchartl> dammsan: 4 European people, you and Morimoto-san, and whoever else
+	    Renesas sends to spy on our meeting :-)  [16:26]
+<dammsan> gotcha, thanks
+<pinchartl> next to go in report order, Morimoto-san
+<morimoto> gotcha
+<morimoto> A) What have I done since last time
+<morimoto> - OF-graph for ALSA SoC was accepted ! I posted HDMI sound
+	   patch-set to ML
+<morimoto> - 24bit sound issue which was found by BSP team was solved. It was
+	   data format issue on HW. I posted this patch to ML, and accepted.
+<morimoto> - AGL sound issue which was found by BSP team was solved. It was
+	   PulseAudio, and Audio-DMAC bugfix was needed. I posted patches.
+								        [16:27]
+<morimoto> - We could receive from Laurent about "DU and GPU synchronization
+	   through fences". pinchartl: nThank you about that !
+<morimoto> About peripelist diff, please check my mail
+<morimoto> B) What I plan to do till next time
+<morimoto> - continue to HDMI sound
+<morimoto> - BSP team nurse for ADSP
+<morimoto> C) Problems I have currently
+<morimoto> No, sir
+<morimoto> but, I want to know/get "8ch camera prototype" patch (or something)
+	   somehow
+<morimoto> --EOT--  [16:28]
+<pinchartl> you're welcome for the DU and GPU synchronization. sorry about the
+	    delay, I had to check that with DRM developers
+<morimoto> OK, no problem. thank  [16:29]
+<morimoto> s/thank/thans/
+<pinchartl> regarding the 8-channels camera prototype
+<pinchartl> http://elinux.org/R-Car/Tests:rcar-vin#Multi-channel_CSI-2_tests
+<pinchartl> there's a link to the code
+<pinchartl> git://linuxtv.org/pinchartl/media.git vin-gmsl-20170515
+<morimoto> gr8
+<morimoto> thanks
+<morimoto> About DMA bugfix patch, I think it is pinchartl: territory  [16:31]
+<pinchartl> isn't it a core team problem ? ;-)
+<pinchartl> I will have a look
+<morimoto> I can show you my cute smile if someone can review :)  [16:32]
+<pinchartl> :-)
+<pinchartl> now I realize that, once again, I forgot to put Magnus first
+<pinchartl> dammsan: be careful, the third time you get under the radar, you
+	    earn the sneaky scoundrel badge :-)
+<pinchartl> and we seem to have lost Magnus  [16:33]
+<morimoto> :)
+<pinchartl> in the meantime, I'll go with my report (privilege of going last
+	    as the team leader :-D)  [16:34]
+<pinchartl> since last meeting
+<pinchartl> - Looked into the DU fence issue reported by the BSP team
+<pinchartl> The BSP team couldn't get fences working without additional (and
+	    complex) patches to the DU driver. This came from the fact that
+	    they wanted to use implicit fences, while DRM has switched to an
+	    explicit fences model. Only explicit fences are implemented in the
+	    DRM core. The GPU driver will need to switch to explicit fences
+	    too.
+<pinchartl> - Cache (DMA ATTR SKIP CPU) performance issue with VSP2
+<pinchartl> Fixed in "[PATCH v2 0/5] R-Car DU: Fix IOMMU operation when
+	    connected to VSP".
+<pinchartl> - Handled administrative tasks (additional tasks negotiation,
+	    Tokyo meeting preparation)  [16:35]
+<pinchartl> - Started looking into H3 ES2.0 display support
+<pinchartl> for the next two weeks  [16:36]
+<pinchartl> - H3 ES2.0 DU support
+<pinchartl> - OSS Japan and multimedia meeting
+<pinchartl> - Vacation in Japan (from June the 4th to June the 17th)
+<pinchartl> ah, I forgot to mention, I've also managed to get my Salvator-X
+	    booting in my board farm, with power controlled through a
+	    beaglebone black and a custom PCB to drive the external power
+	    signal  [16:37]
+<dammsan> good!!
+<pinchartl> now I need to setup remote access to the management machine
+<pinchartl> (which at the moment is unfortunately a power-consuming PC, but I
+	    hope to change that at some point)  [16:38]
+<pinchartl> that's it for me
+<pinchartl> dammsan: anything to report ?
+<pinchartl> seems we've lost Magnus again  [16:40]
+<dammsan> not much except that i intend to review your IPMMU DU/VSP/FCP series
+<pinchartl> ok
+<dammsan> also
+<kbingham> I'll ping Mauro to get an ack on those
+<dammsan> i would like to know which boards i should bring to the meeting
+	  space
+<pinchartl> kbingham: you can ping him on IRC. tell him you're leaving for
+	    Japan tomorrow and that you'd like to know whether he's OK before
+	    that  [16:41]
+<pinchartl> dammsan: that will be part of the third topic :-)
+<dammsan> excellent!!
+<pinchartl> Topic 2. Additional tasks for the second batch of Q2
+<kbingham> pinchartl: Yes, the on IRC bit was the part I meant  - the Japan
+	   trip is a good idea for a push :)
+<pinchartl> has everybody received their SoW for Q2/2 ?  [16:42]
+<uli___> not me
+<dammsan> right, that's yet to be finalized  [16:43]
+<dammsan> uli___: lets do that today so we can wrap it up at renesas office
+	  tomorrow
+<neg> pinchartl: I have received a SoW for TB/BT for rcar-vin, thanks for
+      writing that upp :-)
+<pinchartl> neg: you're welcome
+<uli___> dammsan: ok
+<dammsan> neg: we should discuss papers soon, prefer to do it before japan?
+<jmondi> pinchartl: beside our chat, not yet in a 'formal' document  [16:44]
+<neg> dammsan: whatever is convinient for you
+<pinchartl> jmondi: I don't think you need a formal document for Q2
+<pinchartl> you're still covered by a base contract only until end of Q2 as
+	    far as I understand  [16:45]
+<pinchartl> additional tasks fo Q3 will be discussed in Japan. uli___, we will
+	    of course keep you involved in the process, likely through e-mail
+	    due to the time zone difference
+<pinchartl> uli___: if you have proposals for tasks you'd like to work on in
+	    Q3, please send me an e-mail before Monday
+<jmondi> pinchartl: then I'm fine with my base contract ending the 30th June
+<dammsan> neg: will you show up at the meeting space on sunday night?  [16:46]
+<dammsan> if so we can finalise discussions there
+<dammsan> if not then later in the week is fine too  [16:47]
+<pinchartl> any other comment regarding additional tasks ?
+<neg> dammsan: that was my intention but then I saw the travel description :-)
+      I will look at a map and make sure I can get ther and if so yes I will
+      show up
+<dammsan> neg: gotcha  [16:48]
+<neg> dammsan: so if I get lost handeling it on Monday is also fine with me if
+      it works for you
+<dammsan> sure no worries  [16:49]
+<pinchartl> this leads us to the next topic
+<pinchartl> Topic 3. OSS Japan trip
+<pinchartl> Tokyo is in less than a week ! are you all excited ? :-D
+<dammsan> \o/  [16:50]
+<kbingham> \o/ :D  [16:51]
+<pinchartl> \o/
+<neg> \o/  [16:52]
+<pinchartl> ahem...
+<pinchartl> :-)
+<pinchartl> so
+<pinchartl> we have a meeting space booked from the 28th (3pm) to the 31st
+<kbingham> Did the meeting place address get posted ?
+<pinchartl> yes, to periperi  [16:53]
+<pinchartl> 2 Chome-4-3 Senzoku, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0031, Japan
+<pinchartl> kbingham: welcome to your first Japanese lesson, street addresses
+	    :-)
+<kbingham> Thanks - I'll see if google-nav can get me there :)
+<dammsan> since it is taito-ku i guess it is in between a pachinko place and a
+	  soap land  [16:54]
+<kbingham> My arrival 'capsule' is in Taito - so I'll be nearby
+<pinchartl> (:-D
+<dammsan> cool
+<pinchartl> if I'm not mistaken, the address is pronounced "ni Chome shi san
+	    Senzoku, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to  [16:55]
+<pinchartl> that can be useful in a taxi
+<dammsan> so far it seems like pinchartl wants to use the place for sleeping
+<morimoto> dammsan: can you tell me meeting place name again ?
+<morimoto> so-so-kan ?
+<kbingham> 2 km away ... - 26 minute walk.
+<pinchartl> morimoto: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/17013981
+<dammsan> yuyutei
+<kbingham> dammsan: I think if I'm able to adjust my conference hotel booking
+	   I would like to too .
+<dammsan> ok cool
+<pinchartl> I haven't been able to adjust my Hilton booking yet  [16:56]
+<pinchartl> I tried doing it online but the only option was to cancel and
+	    rebook
+<pinchartl> which is more expensive now, for two night less than the original
+	    booking
+<pinchartl> I contacted them by e-mail but they never replied  [16:57]
+<morimoto> dammsan: pinchartl: thanks
+<neg> yes that is why I have not alterd my Hilton booking... :-) If you figure
+      out how to change it let me know
+<pinchartl> if I can't I guess I'll have a choice between two rooms :-)
+<pinchartl> which could actually be convenient, as I'll land early in the
+	    morning  [16:58]
+<jmondi> I've been able to get the last rooms at LF discount price there.. not
+	 going to cancel and lose it :)
+<dammsan> we have bed space for 5 people in 3 rooms
+<pinchartl> dammsan: will you stay there ?
+<dammsan> yeah i might do so
+<dammsan> i heard morimoto-san might as well
+<dammsan> in case we're not utilizing it fully anyway
+<dammsan> so lunch with jinzai on monday  [16:59]
+<dammsan> we are 6 ppl
+<dammsan> when shall we ask to meet them at the jinzai office?  [17:00]
+<dammsan> noon?
+<pinchartl> first thing first
+<dammsan> sure =)
+<pinchartl> I propose starting the meeting at 9:00am
+<dammsan> (thought i lost you =)
+<neg> if the house is not fully used I might want to also stay there to be
+      able to hangout with you guys. But if the beds are needed I'm just as
+      fine making my way to the Hilton :-)
+<pinchartl> to have time to discuss before meeting with Jinzai
+<pinchartl> for those who are interested, we could meet earlier to have
+	    breakfast  [17:01]
+<pinchartl> I'm sure we can find something nearby
+<jmondi> that's for Monday morning, right?  [17:02]
+<pinchartl> yes
+<dammsan> my only concern is rush hour train from odaiba
+<pinchartl> good point
+<jmondi> but you'll be there from Sunday
+<pinchartl> dammsan: what do you recommend ?
+<dammsan> that people staying at the meeting space go out for breakfast
+<dammsan> and people from hilton take a taxi
+<dammsan> and join when they arrive  [17:03]
+<pinchartl> sounds good to me
+<pinchartl> should we all have dinner together on Sunday evening ?
+<dammsan> it might take between 20 and 40 minutes to get to the meeting space,
+	  maybe even 1h worst case
+<jmondi> lovely!  [17:04]
+<dammsan> that sounds nice
+<jmondi> Sunday dinner is fine!
+<pinchartl> how about having dinner somewhere around the house ?
+<pinchartl> so we can meet there first, people who stay there can drop their
+	    luggage, and we can all go to dinner
+<dammsan> yeah sure, i have no idea where but we can figure out something
+<pinchartl> I'm sure there will be an interesting dinner place within a
+	    reasonable distance from the hosue  [17:05]
+<pinchartl> should we meet there at 18:00 ?
+<dammsan> asakusa will have something most likely
+<dammsan> if so i'll ask to check-in at 17:00  [17:06]
+<dammsan> and wait for your guys there
+<dammsan> morimoto: shall we go to the house together on sunday?
+<morimoto> sure
+<dammsan> i'll bring my sleeping bag in case everyone will stay at the place
+								        [17:07]
+<pinchartl> then lunch with Jinso at 12:00 on Monday seems good to me
+<jmondi> neg: will you leave from Odaiba on Sunday afternoon? Should we test
+	 our ability to get there by public transportations?
+<dammsan> pinchartl: meeting at jinzai office at 12:00 and let jinzai decide
+	  timing for lunch is ok? inayoshi-san said a brief meeting only
+								        [17:08]
+<pinchartl> dammsan: yes, sure
+<dammsan> excellent, will let them know right away  [17:09]
+<neg> jmondi: seems like a good plan
+<pinchartl> I assume people will be interested in dinner on Monday evening
+<pinchartl> going back to the hotel before dinner for those staying at the
+	    Hilton might not be very convenient
+<pinchartl> so should we wrap up not too late, let's say 18:30, and then head
+	    to dinner ?  [17:10]
+<kbingham> I presume taxis/uber are easy in Tokyo?
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+<kbingham> but yes - 18:30 for dinner sounds reasonable  [17:11]
+<pinchartl> kbingham: there are taxis all over the place. the hardest part is
+	    to communicate your destination address :-)
+<morimoto> kbingham: uber is not yet allowed in Japan
+<kbingham> pinchartl: Thus the benefit of Uber :)
+<kbingham> morimoto: Oh - then that's out !
+<neg> kbingham: also data is super expensive (at least for my .se phone)
+<pinchartl> as a general note, make sure you have cash with you, credit cards
+	    are not accepted everywhere
+<pinchartl> you probably want a local SIM card  [17:12]
+<jmondi> something I would like to ask: do you recommend buying a sim card?
+<jmondi> ah yes
+<kbingham> ^ - When travelling I always get a local card :)
+<pinchartl> you can buy one at the airport
+<pinchartl> i paid ¥5500 for a 1GB SIM card last year)
+<pinchartl> it might be possible to get cheaper ones in town  [17:13]
+<pinchartl> if you can get a SIM card that also allows voice, it can be useful
+	    to coordinate
+<morimoto> (I'm very flexible, if people want to stay at meeting room, I can
+	   go back to my house)  [17:14]
+<pinchartl> but unless this has changed recently, don't bother with text
+	    messages, they don't work across different operators
+<pinchartl> so here's the tentative schedule
+<uli___> ftr, last time i bought a sim card in japan, it would not work with
+	 my dual-sim nokia phone
+<pinchartl> Sunday  18:00: Meeting at the house, then heading out for dinner
+<pinchartl> Monday  08:15: Breakfast for those staying at the house
+<pinchartl> Monday  09:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting (we will wait
+	    for everybody to arrive, rush hour is a valid excuse for being
+	    late, but please try to not arrive too late)
+<pinchartl> Monday  12:00: Visit to the Jinso office and lunch with them
+<pinchartl> Monday  14:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting
+<pinchartl> Tuesday 08:15: Breakfast for those staying at the house
+<pinchartl> Tuesday 09:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting
+<pinchartl> Monday  18:30: Dinner (TBD)
+<pinchartl> Tuesday 12:00: Lunch (TBD)
+<pinchartl> Tuesday 14:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting
+<pinchartl> Tuesday 18:30: Dinner (TBD)
+<pinchartl> we will try to minimize the time spent on discussions  [17:15]
+<pinchartl> so as soon as we finish covering all topics
+<pinchartl> we'll switch to hacking mode
+<pinchartl> Morimoto-san and Magnus can bring us boards, but they need to know
+	    what we need  [17:16]
+<pinchartl> power supply should be provided too
+<pinchartl> but please all bring the cables you need
+<pinchartl> this includes ethernet and USB cables  [17:17]
+<pinchartl> and whatever else you need for your work
+<kbingham> Will we have wifi at the house?
+<pinchartl> (likely HDMI for instance)
+<pinchartl> kbingham: according to airbnb, yes
+<pinchartl> the quality of the network is unknown
+<pinchartl> worst case we'll use our phones as access points I assume  [17:18]
+<morimoto> I can bring my WiMAX if you want
+<pinchartl> morimoto: that would be very nice, just in case the wifi doesn't
+	    work well
+<morimoto> OK, will do>
+<dammsan> good idea  [17:19]
+<pinchartl> what hardware do you all need ?
+<pinchartl> we will work on the multi-camera setup
+<pinchartl> dammsan: is it feasible to bring that ?
+<kbingham> A video source ...
+<neg> I have two thingns I like to hack on 1. Integrate my VIN+CSI-2 with
+      kbingham ADV7482 2. Take the 8-ch channel prototype for a real world
+      spin and indentify more "problem" areas. So for that I assume a
+      Salvator-X board and the 8-ch daughterboard is HW I would like dammsan
+      and morimoto to bring :-)  [17:20]
+<dammsan> good question
+<dammsan> i guess no one else is bringing any hardware?
+<morimoto> Unfortunately, bought 8ch camera are not yet arrive. So we have
+	   Magnus's remote 8ch only
+<jmondi> would like to see 8chan setup as well, and will bring a GR-Peach with
+	 camera board and modules in case I have some time to work on it
+<dammsan> ok i see
+<pinchartl> dammsan: remote access is an option, but we might need to play
+	    with the power supply jumper for the second max9286, which isn't
+	    convenient if we can't access the board physically  [17:21]
+<dammsan> i can bring the 8-ch setup
+<dammsan> right
+<pinchartl> dammsan: thank you
+<dammsan> ok, 8-ch setup, check
+<pinchartl> dammsan: I'll need the Salvator-X H3 ES2.0 board
+<jmondi> dammsan: pinchartl: Migo-R? Is it still a thing?  [17:22]
+<dammsan> ok, will bring
+<morimoto> Now, we received XS !! I can bring it to meeting room
+<pinchartl> morimoto: wow cool !
+<dammsan> morimoto: that might help but we have no  board support code
+<morimoto> Yes, that is issue :)
+<dammsan> jmondi: is physical access heping?  [17:23]
+<pinchartl> dammsan: I'd still like to try the Salvator-XS if time permits
+<jmondi> actually while there there should be less lag than from Europe, so
+	 not that much I guess
+<pinchartl> morimoto: so if you could bring it, it would be nice
+<jmondi> dammsan: ^
+<dammsan> jmondi: i can bring it but i want to avoid removal/reinstall from
+	  remove access rack unless it is really necessary  [17:24]
+<pinchartl> neg: kbingham: what do you use to the VIN on Salvator-X as HDMI
+	    and analog sources ?
+<jmondi> dammsan: no worries
+<kbingham> pinchartl: I have an Amazon Fire stick for the HDMI in - and a DVD
+	   player for the CVBS in.  [17:25]
+<kbingham> Something to replicate those video sources would be useful.
+<pinchartl> kbingham: can you bring the amazon fire ?
+<morimoto> pinchartl: OK will do
+<neg> pinchartl: SNES and XBOX, but I bought a HDMI to CVBS adapter I'm
+      planing to bring and hoping that will work as a video source from my
+      laptop
+<dammsan> jmondi: there is a photo of the migo-r here:  [17:26]
+<dammsan>
+	  https://events.linuxfoundation.org/images/stories/slides/jls09/jls09_damm.pdf
+<kbingham> pinchartl: I can ... I was going to leave it hooked on my board at
+	   home ... but I could just leave the DVD player switched on instead.
+								        [17:27]
+<pinchartl> dammsan: would it be possible for you to bring an HDMI or VGA
+	    screen ?
+<neg> or maybe the hackday must include a trip to akihabara to buy snes clone
+      to act as input source :-)
+<pinchartl> neg: hehe :-)
+<dammsan> go go go super potato
+<pinchartl> kbingham: another option is to use a laptop output as an HDMI
+	    source, but the ADV7482 has no EDID support yet as far as I know,
+	    so I'm not sure whether that would work
+<dammsan> maybe morimoto-san can bring the LED projector?
+<pinchartl> neg: kbingham: any comment on that ?
+<dammsan> (my projector that is in the renesas office)  [17:28]
+<pinchartl> dammsan: a projector is a good idea
+<kbingham> pinchartl: No  - there is no EDID support yet - unless we add it
+	   while we're there :)
+<pinchartl> does it have VGA, HDMI or both ?
+<dammsan> that might serve well as HDMI output
+<dammsan> both i think
+<kbingham> pinchartl: I started to look at that - but have postponed as it
+	   didn't seem a priority for upstreaming the driver.
+<pinchartl> kbingham: that would be nice but it's not very urgent, although
+	    it's showing to be a partial blocker (or at least a nuisance)
+<dammsan> morimoto: can you check projector ports please?
+<pinchartl> kbingham: now you know what you'll do in the plane ;-)
+<neg> pinchartl: I agree that EDID support is a issue and a laptop HDMI wont
+      work (at least not last time I tried) but I have high hopes on my
+      HDMI-to-CVBS dongle could work :-)  [17:29]
+<dammsan> (if you are in the renesas office)
+<pinchartl> neg: yes, CVBS shouldn't care about EDID :-)
+<kbingham> pinchartl: I'll need the business class upgrade for the flying
+	   office then :) - I'll expense that you you yes ? :D
+<pinchartl> kbingham: you don't have a private jet ? :-)
+<kbingham> pinchartl: It's under repair currently  [17:30]
+<pinchartl> :-)
+<pinchartl> so I think hardware access is sorted out  [17:31]
+<pinchartl> to summarize
+<neg> also please bring local power cabe slitters :-)
+<pinchartl> kbingham: Amazon Fire TV stick (HDMI source for VIN testing)
+<pinchartl> dammsan: Salvator-X H3 ES1.1 + Multi-camera expansion board + 8
+	    cameras, Salvator-X H3 ES2.0  [17:32]
+<pinchartl> morimoto: LED projector, Salvator-XS
+<pinchartl> neg: HDMI to CVBS converter (CVBS source for VIN testing)
+<pinchartl> everybody: cables
+<pinchartl> a power strip would be useful, yes  [17:33]
+<pinchartl> Magnus or Morimoro-san, could you bring one ?
+<morimoto> dammsan: it seems we lost your projector  [17:34]
+<pinchartl> I'll bring one with euro plugs so Jacopo, Niklas and I won't need
+	    separate power adapters
+<morimoto> I can't find it here (= Renesas office)
+<jmondi> pinchartl: thanks
+<dammsan> morimoto: i saw komatsu-san using it some week ago
+<morimoto> OK, will check
+<dammsan> (maybe he was busy planning on how not to give us salvator-xs boards
+	  early)  [17:35]
+<pinchartl> then, moving on with the schedule, Wednesday-Friday will be
+	    conference time. we can plan dinners, but I'm sure lots of
+	    unexpected plan disruptions will occur, so it might not be worth
+	    it starting with that now  [17:36]
+<pinchartl> for Saturday
+<pinchartl> I propose visiting Kamakura or Hakone
+<morimoto> OK, projector has HDMI in, RGB in, VIDEO in, Audio in
+<pinchartl> (assuming the weather will permit)
+<pinchartl> morimoto: by RGB, do you mean VGA ?  [17:37]
+<morimoto> Yes
+<pinchartl> morimoto: perfect !
+<dammsan> morimoto: thanks for checking, can you bring it?
+<pinchartl> Morimoto-san and Magnus, would you be interested in joining us for
+	    a day trip to Kamakura or Hakone on Saturday the 3rd ?
+<morimoto> Do you need HDMI cable ?  [17:38]
+<pinchartl> (or would you recommend avoiding those places ? :-))
+<pinchartl> morimoto: I'll bring a VGA and an HDMI cable, but if there are
+	    cables with the projector please take them, just in case
+<morimoto> OK
+<dammsan> pinchartl: i think i need one free day this weekend, so i'll pass
+	  this time  [17:39]
+<morimoto> In 3rd, I need to go to dentist. But I can adjust.
+<morimoto> Then, I need to cancel it
+<dammsan> oh, 3rd
+<dammsan> that sounds nice
+<dammsan> lets go together
+<pinchartl> :-)
+<pinchartl> morimoto: if you're not available it's fine, the trip is not
+	    mandatory :-)
+<pinchartl> but we would certainly be happy if you could join  [17:40]
+<pinchartl> (however, please not that if the weather is really bad we might
+	    need to change the plan)
+<morimoto> OK, let's go together :)
+<pinchartl> would you recommend Kamakura or Hakone ?
+<morimoto> (I will cancel dentist)
+<pinchartl> Kamakura is a bit closer, one hour away by regular train
+<pinchartl> while Hakone is also one hour away, but by Shinkansen  [17:41]
+<pinchartl> so if we book at the last minute to check the weather, the
+	    Shinkansen might be full
+<dammsan> both are nice i think
+<pinchartl> (but at least we have a backup plan)
+<morimoto> Kamakura has big Buddha. Hakone is On-sen place
+<pinchartl> ok, I'll let you all check both places, and we'll decide later
+<dammsan> shonan-enoshima is also nice
+<morimoto> https://www.city.kamakura.kanagawa.jp/visitkamakura/en/index.html
+<dammsan> it is in the same direction
+<dammsan> sort of a beach place  [17:42]
+<morimoto> https://www.hakone.or.jp/en/
+<pinchartl> dammsan: thanks, I've added that to the list of proposals  [17:43]
+<neg> on-sen and beach place, sounds like I shuld pack swiming gear :-)
+<morimoto> neg: you can't use swiming gear at on-sen :)  [17:44]
+<jmondi> both seems very nice! not sure what on-sen stands for :)
+<pinchartl> neg: good point, please all pack a swimming suit in case we go to
+	    the beach :-)
+<pinchartl> jmondi: look it up or have the surprise ;-)
+<jmondi> I'll go for the surprise!  [17:45]
+<morimoto> http://www.hakone-english.com/
+<pinchartl> dammsan: I had failed to see that Shonan-Enoshima is actually in
+	    Kamakura :-)
+<dammsan> it is also possible to go for an evening onsen visit from the
+	  meeting space if you'd like
+<dammsan> we can take a cab to tokyo dome area  [17:46]
+<dammsan> but anyway
+<dammsan> people with tattoos might have a hard time getting accepted
+<dammsan> but apart from that anything should be fine
+<pinchartl> dammsan: small tattoos can be covered with a band-aid, right ?
+								        [17:47]
+<dammsan> yeah probably
+<jmondi> dammsan: really?
+<dammsan> yeah
+<dammsan> and "antisocial persons" are also not usually welcome  [17:48]
+<dammsan> that would be me i guess =)
+<jmondi> I might have problems then
+<jmondi> ah crap, 2 problems then
+<dammsan> hehe
+<jmondi> how do they find out if you're an antisocial one?
+<pinchartl> jmondi: tattoos are associated with the Yakuza and antisocial
+	    behaviour in Japan  [17:49]
+<dammsan> i guess they look you up on facebook
+<dammsan> just kidding
+<dammsan> =)
+<jmondi> and if you're not on faebook, you're anti-social-network? Ok, I'll
+	 stop  [17:50]
+<pinchartl> jmondi:
+	    http://www.kashiwaya.org/e/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/tattoo_cover.jpg
+<neg> if they did, I'd say it's the first valid reason I heard to get a
+      facebook account :-)
+<dammsan> =)
+<dammsan> i'd say it is probably closer to "fax-book" than face book given how
+	  old the rules are  [17:51]
+<jmondi> pinchartl: no way :)
+<pinchartl> jmondi: :-)
+<pinchartl> anyway, I think that's it for today's meeting  [17:52]
+<pinchartl> does anyone have another topic to discuss ?
+<morimoto> 2nd plan ? http://www.senso-ji.jp/
+<morimoto> http://www.meijijingu.or.jp/english/index.html  [17:53]
+<neg> One short question, is anyone besides jmondi interessted in a joint
+      travel from the Hilton to the House on Sunday?
+<pinchartl> neg: I might, if I can't change my Hilton booking
+<pinchartl> morimoto: do you mean on June the 2nd ?
+<morimoto> http://daiba.ooedoonsen.jp/en/  [17:54]
+<morimoto> pinchartl: no no. 
+<kbingham> neg: Likewise here - although  [17:55]
+<neg> pinchartl: Ok I send the same question to periperi and if you wish to
+      join please respond to that :-)
+<kbingham> I think I can easily cancel my sunday night at the hilton as it was
+	   booked separately.
+<dammsan> kbingham: nice to see that you've had your thinking cap on!! =)
+<pinchartl> morimoto: ah, a backup plan then :-)
+<morimoto> pinchartl: yes
+<neg> pinchartl: also if you managed to find a way to alter your Hilton
+      booking please let me know since I failed in this endevor  [17:56]
+<pinchartl> neg: sure
+<pinchartl> I'll land on Sunday morning  [17:57]
+<dammsan> if you are unsure where to find more interesting place to spend your
+	  time on than odaiba, feel free to have a look at narita city
+<pinchartl> so I'll be looking for company for the day
+<pinchartl> but let's discuss that separately
+<kbingham> I would suggest we share phone numbers or some contact details for
+	   when we are in Japan, but I guess we might all end up with a new
+	   temporary number on arrival ?
+<pinchartl> this brings us to the next topics
+<jmondi> I guess so
+<pinchartl> s/topics/topic/
+<pinchartl> Topic 4. Next meeting
+<pinchartl> The next meeting will be held face to face next week in Tōkyō, see
+	    you there !
+<pinchartl> uli___: thanks for the chromebook pictures  [17:58]
+<uli___> welcome
+<pinchartl> I propose adjourning this meeting
+<pinchartl> does anyone second ?
+<kbingham> Aye  [17:59]
+<jmondi> yup
+<neg> second
+<dammsan> yeah
+<pinchartl> meeting adjourned
+<pinchartl> thank you all for attending
+<neg> thanks all, have a nice day and see (most of) you soon  [18:00]
+<kbingham> :) Yes  - Looking forward to it
+<pinchartl> uli___: there's so many unsoldered components  [18:01]
+<uli___> ?
+<uli___> what are you referring to?
+<pinchartl> the chromebook
+<uli___> of course, but what components?
+<pinchartl> not one in particular  [18:02]
+<pinchartl> I'm also puzzled by the component outlines on the silk screen that
+	    just encompass plain areas of copper
+<uli___> ah, you mean the pads with nothing on them
+<pinchartl> for the unsoldered components, yes  [18:03]
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+<neg> I just though of one more Japan related question, if I print a address
+      such as '2 Chome-4-3 Senzoku, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0031, Japan' on a
+      piece of paper is it good enugh to hand to a taxi driver and expect to
+      arrive at the correct location?  [18:06]
+<pinchartl> neg: try to print it in Japanese  [18:07]
+<pinchartl> or read it out with your best Japanese accent :-)
+<jmondi> neg good question!
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+<neg> ok thanks  [18:11]
+<morimoto> neg: Maybe OK I think  [18:13]
+<morimoto> but you can ask to driver before ride
+<morimoto> If you can bring Map, it is best  [18:14]