From 55e3b2f45880faaf06f3c660ca9e8a6d9aa14bce Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Kuninori Morimoto Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 15:29:52 +0900 Subject: wiki: Porting wiki: Porting Chat Log Signed-off-by: Kuninori Morimoto --- wiki/Chat_log/20170524-mm-chatlog | 694 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 694 insertions(+) create mode 100644 wiki/Chat_log/20170524-mm-chatlog (limited to 'wiki/Chat_log/20170524-mm-chatlog') diff --git a/wiki/Chat_log/20170524-mm-chatlog b/wiki/Chat_log/20170524-mm-chatlog new file mode 100644 index 0000000..a496e89 --- /dev/null +++ b/wiki/Chat_log/20170524-mm-chatlog @@ -0,0 +1,694 @@ +Multimedia-chat-meeting-2017-05-24 + + hello [15:55] + hi + Morning! [15:56] + I see that everybody has provided status reports by e-mail, + excellent :-) [15:57] + I know that Jacopo is awake [15:58] + how about neg ? + Hi [15:59] + Hello there + let's still wait a few minutes for Niklas [16:00] + hi guys [16:01] + hopefully Niklas will join us soon [16:02] + let's get started + topics for today + 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks + 2. Additional tasks for Q2/2 + 3. Meeting in Japan + anything else ? [16:03] + I'll take that as a no [16:04] + Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks [16:05] + let's see who posted his report last... +* uli___ hides + Ulrich, you can start :-) + so i copied the blanche board's serial-multiplex max9260 setup using + wires and breakout boards [16:06] + and wrote a stub serdev driver to access it + that works on the blanche board as well + but that needed a little infrastructure (pin control) + then i resent the gose video input series with updated dt bindings + [16:07] + there are numerous variations of the adv7180 + but we only care about whether they have 3 or 6 inputs + yes, it's painful :-/ + to i added two compat strings ("adv7180cp" and "adv7180st", iirc) + to avoid bloat + rob herring acked it [16:08] + next thing to do is to probe around the chromebook board to look for + a uart or something else we can use to get debug output + uli___: To which variant does the existing "adi,adv7180" correspond + to? + "unknown", i suppose + I'll review the DT bindings [16:09] + (and the other patches) + thank you [16:10] + next in report order, neg + who doesn't seem to be here + I'll copy his e-mail report for now + since last meeting + - [PATCH v2 0/2] v4l2-async: add subnotifier registration for + subdevices + - [PATCH v2 0/2] media: entity: add operation to help map DT + node to media pad + - [PATCH v7 0/2] media: rcar-csi2: add Renesas R-Car MIPI + CSI-2 support + - [PATCH v2 00/17] rcar-vin: fix issues with format and + capturing + for the next two weeks: [16:11] + * Post: + - [PATCH v5 00/28] rcar-vin: Add Gen3 with media controller + support + * Attend OSS Japan and PeriPeri + next [16:12] + jmondi: [16:13] + your turn + here I am + let me paste the email content a bit + since last meeting + - Migo-R machine init with new CEU driver: got both sensor probing + [16:14] + - Sensor drivers (ov772x and tw9910) removed soc_camera dependencies + - add support for multiple sub-devices to CEU driver + - started playing with notifiers on max9268 driver and 8-ch camera + setup [16:15] + for the next two weeks + - max9682 startup sequence + - split max9268 and max9271 drivers + - add support for OF to CEU driver and use camera module on GR-Peach + board [16:16] + I'll add "- OSS Japan and multimedia meeting" to that list + ah, right! + I forgot I had to take a plane on Friday + :) + do we need to add accepted bug fixes to status report? [16:17] + no + ok, then --eot-- + Morimoto-san's script to pick them up works :-) + I knew it was like that for Core/IO, just wanted to make sure for mm + is the same... [16:18] + sorry for beeing late + jmondi: my script is collecting bugfix patch from our related ML + hi Niklas + morimoto: great! [16:19] + jmondi: Thanks anyway + next in report order, kbingham + I've been mostly working on ADV748x related tasks, and trying to + get it's dependencies sorted. [16:20] + With that - I have done 4 spins of the V4L2 async matching updates, + which I think are now ready and are going through Sakari's branches + I believe. + I need to discuss with Niklas what we will do about the link issues + that are not created in RVin + but I think for now - just using static immutable links in the ADV + is fine. [16:21] + I have also done two spins of the ADV748x driver itself with plenty + of review comments from both Laurent and Sakari which I have been + working through. + The last 'big tasks' for me before another repost is to try to get + regmap in place. + I have also done some review and maintenance work for the VSP1-DU + patches, and I have also got my remote access set up so I can boot + the Salvator-X without a wire in my laptop - This makes me happy :) + - Next up for me is of course the Japan trip, I leave for London + on Thursday evening, and fly out Friday morning. And hopefully one + or two final posts of the ADV748x [16:22] + -- eot -- + ? kbingham: do you come to japan ? [16:23] + morimoto: I am yes :) + morimoto: I need you to teach me how to speak Japanese in the next + 3 days :) + OK, so, total 5 periperi from Europe ? + Laurent/Niklas/Marek/Jacopo/Kieran [16:24] + morimoto: correct + OK, thanks + will marek join the m/m meeting? + dammsan: no, he will land on Tuesday evening I believe [16:25] + ok, so monday lunch how many people? =) + 6 from our side? + o/ + o/ + dammsan: 4 European people, you and Morimoto-san, and whoever else + Renesas sends to spy on our meeting :-) [16:26] + gotcha, thanks + next to go in report order, Morimoto-san + gotcha + A) What have I done since last time + - OF-graph for ALSA SoC was accepted ! I posted HDMI sound + patch-set to ML + - 24bit sound issue which was found by BSP team was solved. It was + data format issue on HW. I posted this patch to ML, and accepted. + - AGL sound issue which was found by BSP team was solved. It was + PulseAudio, and Audio-DMAC bugfix was needed. I posted patches. + [16:27] + - We could receive from Laurent about "DU and GPU synchronization + through fences". pinchartl: nThank you about that ! + About peripelist diff, please check my mail + B) What I plan to do till next time + - continue to HDMI sound + - BSP team nurse for ADSP + C) Problems I have currently + No, sir + but, I want to know/get "8ch camera prototype" patch (or something) + somehow + --EOT-- [16:28] + you're welcome for the DU and GPU synchronization. sorry about the + delay, I had to check that with DRM developers + OK, no problem. thank [16:29] + s/thank/thans/ + regarding the 8-channels camera prototype + http://elinux.org/R-Car/Tests:rcar-vin#Multi-channel_CSI-2_tests + there's a link to the code + git://linuxtv.org/pinchartl/media.git vin-gmsl-20170515 + gr8 + thanks + About DMA bugfix patch, I think it is pinchartl: territory [16:31] + isn't it a core team problem ? ;-) + I will have a look + I can show you my cute smile if someone can review :) [16:32] + :-) + now I realize that, once again, I forgot to put Magnus first + dammsan: be careful, the third time you get under the radar, you + earn the sneaky scoundrel badge :-) + and we seem to have lost Magnus [16:33] + :) + in the meantime, I'll go with my report (privilege of going last + as the team leader :-D) [16:34] + since last meeting + - Looked into the DU fence issue reported by the BSP team + The BSP team couldn't get fences working without additional (and + complex) patches to the DU driver. This came from the fact that + they wanted to use implicit fences, while DRM has switched to an + explicit fences model. Only explicit fences are implemented in the + DRM core. The GPU driver will need to switch to explicit fences + too. + - Cache (DMA ATTR SKIP CPU) performance issue with VSP2 + Fixed in "[PATCH v2 0/5] R-Car DU: Fix IOMMU operation when + connected to VSP". + - Handled administrative tasks (additional tasks negotiation, + Tokyo meeting preparation) [16:35] + - Started looking into H3 ES2.0 display support + for the next two weeks [16:36] + - H3 ES2.0 DU support + - OSS Japan and multimedia meeting + - Vacation in Japan (from June the 4th to June the 17th) + ah, I forgot to mention, I've also managed to get my Salvator-X + booting in my board farm, with power controlled through a + beaglebone black and a custom PCB to drive the external power + signal [16:37] + good!! + now I need to setup remote access to the management machine + (which at the moment is unfortunately a power-consuming PC, but I + hope to change that at some point) [16:38] + that's it for me + dammsan: anything to report ? + seems we've lost Magnus again [16:40] + not much except that i intend to review your IPMMU DU/VSP/FCP series + ok + also + I'll ping Mauro to get an ack on those + i would like to know which boards i should bring to the meeting + space + kbingham: you can ping him on IRC. tell him you're leaving for + Japan tomorrow and that you'd like to know whether he's OK before + that [16:41] + dammsan: that will be part of the third topic :-) + excellent!! + Topic 2. Additional tasks for the second batch of Q2 + pinchartl: Yes, the on IRC bit was the part I meant - the Japan + trip is a good idea for a push :) + has everybody received their SoW for Q2/2 ? [16:42] + not me + right, that's yet to be finalized [16:43] + uli___: lets do that today so we can wrap it up at renesas office + tomorrow + pinchartl: I have received a SoW for TB/BT for rcar-vin, thanks for + writing that upp :-) + neg: you're welcome + dammsan: ok + neg: we should discuss papers soon, prefer to do it before japan? + pinchartl: beside our chat, not yet in a 'formal' document [16:44] + dammsan: whatever is convinient for you + jmondi: I don't think you need a formal document for Q2 + you're still covered by a base contract only until end of Q2 as + far as I understand [16:45] + additional tasks fo Q3 will be discussed in Japan. uli___, we will + of course keep you involved in the process, likely through e-mail + due to the time zone difference + uli___: if you have proposals for tasks you'd like to work on in + Q3, please send me an e-mail before Monday + pinchartl: then I'm fine with my base contract ending the 30th June + neg: will you show up at the meeting space on sunday night? [16:46] + if so we can finalise discussions there + if not then later in the week is fine too [16:47] + any other comment regarding additional tasks ? + dammsan: that was my intention but then I saw the travel description :-) + I will look at a map and make sure I can get ther and if so yes I will + show up + neg: gotcha [16:48] + dammsan: so if I get lost handeling it on Monday is also fine with me if + it works for you + sure no worries [16:49] + this leads us to the next topic + Topic 3. OSS Japan trip + Tokyo is in less than a week ! are you all excited ? :-D + \o/ [16:50] + \o/ :D [16:51] + \o/ + \o/ [16:52] + ahem... + :-) + so + we have a meeting space booked from the 28th (3pm) to the 31st + Did the meeting place address get posted ? + yes, to periperi [16:53] + 2 Chome-4-3 Senzoku, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0031, Japan + kbingham: welcome to your first Japanese lesson, street addresses + :-) + Thanks - I'll see if google-nav can get me there :) + since it is taito-ku i guess it is in between a pachinko place and a + soap land [16:54] + My arrival 'capsule' is in Taito - so I'll be nearby + (:-D + cool + if I'm not mistaken, the address is pronounced "ni Chome shi san + Senzoku, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to [16:55] + that can be useful in a taxi + so far it seems like pinchartl wants to use the place for sleeping + dammsan: can you tell me meeting place name again ? + so-so-kan ? + 2 km away ... - 26 minute walk. + morimoto: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/17013981 + yuyutei + dammsan: I think if I'm able to adjust my conference hotel booking + I would like to too . + ok cool + I haven't been able to adjust my Hilton booking yet [16:56] + I tried doing it online but the only option was to cancel and + rebook + which is more expensive now, for two night less than the original + booking + I contacted them by e-mail but they never replied [16:57] + dammsan: pinchartl: thanks + yes that is why I have not alterd my Hilton booking... :-) If you figure + out how to change it let me know + if I can't I guess I'll have a choice between two rooms :-) + which could actually be convenient, as I'll land early in the + morning [16:58] + I've been able to get the last rooms at LF discount price there.. not + going to cancel and lose it :) + we have bed space for 5 people in 3 rooms + dammsan: will you stay there ? + yeah i might do so + i heard morimoto-san might as well + in case we're not utilizing it fully anyway + so lunch with jinzai on monday [16:59] + we are 6 ppl + when shall we ask to meet them at the jinzai office? [17:00] + noon? + first thing first + sure =) + I propose starting the meeting at 9:00am + (thought i lost you =) + if the house is not fully used I might want to also stay there to be + able to hangout with you guys. But if the beds are needed I'm just as + fine making my way to the Hilton :-) + to have time to discuss before meeting with Jinzai + for those who are interested, we could meet earlier to have + breakfast [17:01] + I'm sure we can find something nearby + that's for Monday morning, right? [17:02] + yes + my only concern is rush hour train from odaiba + good point + but you'll be there from Sunday + dammsan: what do you recommend ? + that people staying at the meeting space go out for breakfast + and people from hilton take a taxi + and join when they arrive [17:03] + sounds good to me + should we all have dinner together on Sunday evening ? + it might take between 20 and 40 minutes to get to the meeting space, + maybe even 1h worst case + lovely! [17:04] + that sounds nice + Sunday dinner is fine! + how about having dinner somewhere around the house ? + so we can meet there first, people who stay there can drop their + luggage, and we can all go to dinner + yeah sure, i have no idea where but we can figure out something + I'm sure there will be an interesting dinner place within a + reasonable distance from the hosue [17:05] + should we meet there at 18:00 ? + asakusa will have something most likely + if so i'll ask to check-in at 17:00 [17:06] + and wait for your guys there + morimoto: shall we go to the house together on sunday? + sure + i'll bring my sleeping bag in case everyone will stay at the place + [17:07] + then lunch with Jinso at 12:00 on Monday seems good to me + neg: will you leave from Odaiba on Sunday afternoon? Should we test + our ability to get there by public transportations? + pinchartl: meeting at jinzai office at 12:00 and let jinzai decide + timing for lunch is ok? inayoshi-san said a brief meeting only + [17:08] + dammsan: yes, sure + excellent, will let them know right away [17:09] + jmondi: seems like a good plan + I assume people will be interested in dinner on Monday evening + going back to the hotel before dinner for those staying at the + Hilton might not be very convenient + so should we wrap up not too late, let's say 18:30, and then head + to dinner ? [17:10] + I presume taxis/uber are easy in Tokyo? +*** horms (~horms@217.111.208.18) has quit: Ping timeout: 255 seconds + but yes - 18:30 for dinner sounds reasonable [17:11] + kbingham: there are taxis all over the place. the hardest part is + to communicate your destination address :-) + kbingham: uber is not yet allowed in Japan + pinchartl: Thus the benefit of Uber :) + morimoto: Oh - then that's out ! + kbingham: also data is super expensive (at least for my .se phone) + as a general note, make sure you have cash with you, credit cards + are not accepted everywhere + you probably want a local SIM card [17:12] + something I would like to ask: do you recommend buying a sim card? + ah yes + ^ - When travelling I always get a local card :) + you can buy one at the airport + i paid ¥5500 for a 1GB SIM card last year) + it might be possible to get cheaper ones in town [17:13] + if you can get a SIM card that also allows voice, it can be useful + to coordinate + (I'm very flexible, if people want to stay at meeting room, I can + go back to my house) [17:14] + but unless this has changed recently, don't bother with text + messages, they don't work across different operators + so here's the tentative schedule + ftr, last time i bought a sim card in japan, it would not work with + my dual-sim nokia phone + Sunday 18:00: Meeting at the house, then heading out for dinner + Monday 08:15: Breakfast for those staying at the house + Monday 09:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting (we will wait + for everybody to arrive, rush hour is a valid excuse for being + late, but please try to not arrive too late) + Monday 12:00: Visit to the Jinso office and lunch with them + Monday 14:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting + Tuesday 08:15: Breakfast for those staying at the house + Tuesday 09:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting + Monday 18:30: Dinner (TBD) + Tuesday 12:00: Lunch (TBD) + Tuesday 14:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting + Tuesday 18:30: Dinner (TBD) + we will try to minimize the time spent on discussions [17:15] + so as soon as we finish covering all topics + we'll switch to hacking mode + Morimoto-san and Magnus can bring us boards, but they need to know + what we need [17:16] + power supply should be provided too + but please all bring the cables you need + this includes ethernet and USB cables [17:17] + and whatever else you need for your work + Will we have wifi at the house? + (likely HDMI for instance) + kbingham: according to airbnb, yes + the quality of the network is unknown + worst case we'll use our phones as access points I assume [17:18] + I can bring my WiMAX if you want + morimoto: that would be very nice, just in case the wifi doesn't + work well + OK, will do> + good idea [17:19] + what hardware do you all need ? + we will work on the multi-camera setup + dammsan: is it feasible to bring that ? + A video source ... + I have two thingns I like to hack on 1. Integrate my VIN+CSI-2 with + kbingham ADV7482 2. Take the 8-ch channel prototype for a real world + spin and indentify more "problem" areas. So for that I assume a + Salvator-X board and the 8-ch daughterboard is HW I would like dammsan + and morimoto to bring :-) [17:20] + good question + i guess no one else is bringing any hardware? + Unfortunately, bought 8ch camera are not yet arrive. So we have + Magnus's remote 8ch only + would like to see 8chan setup as well, and will bring a GR-Peach with + camera board and modules in case I have some time to work on it + ok i see + dammsan: remote access is an option, but we might need to play + with the power supply jumper for the second max9286, which isn't + convenient if we can't access the board physically [17:21] + i can bring the 8-ch setup + right + dammsan: thank you + ok, 8-ch setup, check + dammsan: I'll need the Salvator-X H3 ES2.0 board + dammsan: pinchartl: Migo-R? Is it still a thing? [17:22] + ok, will bring + Now, we received XS !! I can bring it to meeting room + morimoto: wow cool ! + morimoto: that might help but we have no board support code + Yes, that is issue :) + jmondi: is physical access heping? [17:23] + dammsan: I'd still like to try the Salvator-XS if time permits + actually while there there should be less lag than from Europe, so + not that much I guess + morimoto: so if you could bring it, it would be nice + dammsan: ^ + jmondi: i can bring it but i want to avoid removal/reinstall from + remove access rack unless it is really necessary [17:24] + neg: kbingham: what do you use to the VIN on Salvator-X as HDMI + and analog sources ? + dammsan: no worries + pinchartl: I have an Amazon Fire stick for the HDMI in - and a DVD + player for the CVBS in. [17:25] + Something to replicate those video sources would be useful. + kbingham: can you bring the amazon fire ? + pinchartl: OK will do + pinchartl: SNES and XBOX, but I bought a HDMI to CVBS adapter I'm + planing to bring and hoping that will work as a video source from my + laptop + jmondi: there is a photo of the migo-r here: [17:26] + + https://events.linuxfoundation.org/images/stories/slides/jls09/jls09_damm.pdf + pinchartl: I can ... I was going to leave it hooked on my board at + home ... but I could just leave the DVD player switched on instead. + [17:27] + dammsan: would it be possible for you to bring an HDMI or VGA + screen ? + or maybe the hackday must include a trip to akihabara to buy snes clone + to act as input source :-) + neg: hehe :-) + go go go super potato + kbingham: another option is to use a laptop output as an HDMI + source, but the ADV7482 has no EDID support yet as far as I know, + so I'm not sure whether that would work + maybe morimoto-san can bring the LED projector? + neg: kbingham: any comment on that ? + (my projector that is in the renesas office) [17:28] + dammsan: a projector is a good idea + pinchartl: No - there is no EDID support yet - unless we add it + while we're there :) + does it have VGA, HDMI or both ? + that might serve well as HDMI output + both i think + pinchartl: I started to look at that - but have postponed as it + didn't seem a priority for upstreaming the driver. + kbingham: that would be nice but it's not very urgent, although + it's showing to be a partial blocker (or at least a nuisance) + morimoto: can you check projector ports please? + kbingham: now you know what you'll do in the plane ;-) + pinchartl: I agree that EDID support is a issue and a laptop HDMI wont + work (at least not last time I tried) but I have high hopes on my + HDMI-to-CVBS dongle could work :-) [17:29] + (if you are in the renesas office) + neg: yes, CVBS shouldn't care about EDID :-) + pinchartl: I'll need the business class upgrade for the flying + office then :) - I'll expense that you you yes ? :D + kbingham: you don't have a private jet ? :-) + pinchartl: It's under repair currently [17:30] + :-) + so I think hardware access is sorted out [17:31] + to summarize + also please bring local power cabe slitters :-) + kbingham: Amazon Fire TV stick (HDMI source for VIN testing) + dammsan: Salvator-X H3 ES1.1 + Multi-camera expansion board + 8 + cameras, Salvator-X H3 ES2.0 [17:32] + morimoto: LED projector, Salvator-XS + neg: HDMI to CVBS converter (CVBS source for VIN testing) + everybody: cables + a power strip would be useful, yes [17:33] + Magnus or Morimoro-san, could you bring one ? + dammsan: it seems we lost your projector [17:34] + I'll bring one with euro plugs so Jacopo, Niklas and I won't need + separate power adapters + I can't find it here (= Renesas office) + pinchartl: thanks + morimoto: i saw komatsu-san using it some week ago + OK, will check + (maybe he was busy planning on how not to give us salvator-xs boards + early) [17:35] + then, moving on with the schedule, Wednesday-Friday will be + conference time. we can plan dinners, but I'm sure lots of + unexpected plan disruptions will occur, so it might not be worth + it starting with that now [17:36] + for Saturday + I propose visiting Kamakura or Hakone + OK, projector has HDMI in, RGB in, VIDEO in, Audio in + (assuming the weather will permit) + morimoto: by RGB, do you mean VGA ? [17:37] + Yes + morimoto: perfect ! + morimoto: thanks for checking, can you bring it? + Morimoto-san and Magnus, would you be interested in joining us for + a day trip to Kamakura or Hakone on Saturday the 3rd ? + Do you need HDMI cable ? [17:38] + (or would you recommend avoiding those places ? :-)) + morimoto: I'll bring a VGA and an HDMI cable, but if there are + cables with the projector please take them, just in case + OK + pinchartl: i think i need one free day this weekend, so i'll pass + this time [17:39] + In 3rd, I need to go to dentist. But I can adjust. + Then, I need to cancel it + oh, 3rd + that sounds nice + lets go together + :-) + morimoto: if you're not available it's fine, the trip is not + mandatory :-) + but we would certainly be happy if you could join [17:40] + (however, please not that if the weather is really bad we might + need to change the plan) + OK, let's go together :) + would you recommend Kamakura or Hakone ? + (I will cancel dentist) + Kamakura is a bit closer, one hour away by regular train + while Hakone is also one hour away, but by Shinkansen [17:41] + so if we book at the last minute to check the weather, the + Shinkansen might be full + both are nice i think + (but at least we have a backup plan) + Kamakura has big Buddha. Hakone is On-sen place + ok, I'll let you all check both places, and we'll decide later + shonan-enoshima is also nice + https://www.city.kamakura.kanagawa.jp/visitkamakura/en/index.html + it is in the same direction + sort of a beach place [17:42] + https://www.hakone.or.jp/en/ + dammsan: thanks, I've added that to the list of proposals [17:43] + on-sen and beach place, sounds like I shuld pack swiming gear :-) + neg: you can't use swiming gear at on-sen :) [17:44] + both seems very nice! not sure what on-sen stands for :) + neg: good point, please all pack a swimming suit in case we go to + the beach :-) + jmondi: look it up or have the surprise ;-) + I'll go for the surprise! [17:45] + http://www.hakone-english.com/ + dammsan: I had failed to see that Shonan-Enoshima is actually in + Kamakura :-) + it is also possible to go for an evening onsen visit from the + meeting space if you'd like + we can take a cab to tokyo dome area [17:46] + but anyway + people with tattoos might have a hard time getting accepted + but apart from that anything should be fine + dammsan: small tattoos can be covered with a band-aid, right ? + [17:47] + yeah probably + dammsan: really? + yeah + and "antisocial persons" are also not usually welcome [17:48] + that would be me i guess =) + I might have problems then + ah crap, 2 problems then + hehe + how do they find out if you're an antisocial one? + jmondi: tattoos are associated with the Yakuza and antisocial + behaviour in Japan [17:49] + i guess they look you up on facebook + just kidding + =) + and if you're not on faebook, you're anti-social-network? Ok, I'll + stop [17:50] + jmondi: + http://www.kashiwaya.org/e/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/tattoo_cover.jpg + if they did, I'd say it's the first valid reason I heard to get a + facebook account :-) + =) + i'd say it is probably closer to "fax-book" than face book given how + old the rules are [17:51] + pinchartl: no way :) + jmondi: :-) + anyway, I think that's it for today's meeting [17:52] + does anyone have another topic to discuss ? + 2nd plan ? http://www.senso-ji.jp/ + http://www.meijijingu.or.jp/english/index.html [17:53] + One short question, is anyone besides jmondi interessted in a joint + travel from the Hilton to the House on Sunday? + neg: I might, if I can't change my Hilton booking + morimoto: do you mean on June the 2nd ? + http://daiba.ooedoonsen.jp/en/ [17:54] + pinchartl: no no. + neg: Likewise here - although [17:55] + pinchartl: Ok I send the same question to periperi and if you wish to + join please respond to that :-) + I think I can easily cancel my sunday night at the hilton as it was + booked separately. + kbingham: nice to see that you've had your thinking cap on!! =) + morimoto: ah, a backup plan then :-) + pinchartl: yes + pinchartl: also if you managed to find a way to alter your Hilton + booking please let me know since I failed in this endevor [17:56] + neg: sure + I'll land on Sunday morning [17:57] + if you are unsure where to find more interesting place to spend your + time on than odaiba, feel free to have a look at narita city + so I'll be looking for company for the day + but let's discuss that separately + I would suggest we share phone numbers or some contact details for + when we are in Japan, but I guess we might all end up with a new + temporary number on arrival ? + this brings us to the next topics + I guess so + s/topics/topic/ + Topic 4. Next meeting + The next meeting will be held face to face next week in Tōkyō, see + you there ! + uli___: thanks for the chromebook pictures [17:58] + welcome + I propose adjourning this meeting + does anyone second ? + Aye [17:59] + yup + second + yeah + meeting adjourned + thank you all for attending + thanks all, have a nice day and see (most of) you soon [18:00] + :) Yes - Looking forward to it + uli___: there's so many unsoldered components [18:01] + ? + what are you referring to? + the chromebook + of course, but what components? + not one in particular [18:02] + I'm also puzzled by the component outlines on the silk screen that + just encompass plain areas of copper + ah, you mean the pads with nothing on them + for the unsoldered components, yes [18:03] +*** horms (~horms@217.111.208.18) has joined channel #periperi [18:04] + I just though of one more Japan related question, if I print a address + such as '2 Chome-4-3 Senzoku, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0031, Japan' on a + piece of paper is it good enugh to hand to a taxi driver and expect to + arrive at the correct location? [18:06] + neg: try to print it in Japanese [18:07] + or read it out with your best Japanese accent :-) + neg good question! +*** horms (~horms@217.111.208.18) has quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:09] + ok thanks [18:11] + neg: Maybe OK I think [18:13] + but you can ask to driver before ride + If you can bring Map, it is best [18:14] -- cgit v1.2.3