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09:31 < geertu> Welcome to today's Core Group Chat Meeting!
09:31 < geertu> Agenda:
09:31 < geertu> 1. Status Updates
09:31 < geertu> 2. Discussion Topics
09:31 < geertu> Topic 1. Status updates
09:31 < geertu> A) What have we done since last time:
09:31 < geertu> Moirmoto-san updated the Renesas tools (Yocto Maker, ROM writer, S4
09:31 < geertu> Spider support) and started preparing Renesas Linux related work.
09:31 < geertu> Shimoda-san reviewed R-Car S4 PFC patches.
09:31 < geertu> Geert posted R-Car S4-8 pinctrl v2, sent pull requests for v5.18, tested
09:31 < geertu> a patch series to repair swap over NFS, reviewed lots of patches, and
09:31 < geertu> processed periject.
09:31 < shimoday> pinchartl: thank you for the information. other vendors direction is good information :)
09:32 < geertu> B) What we plan to do till next time:
09:32 < geertu> Morimoto-san plans to do Renesas work.
09:32 < geertu> Shimoda-san plans to submit a CCREE bug fix, follow the R-Car S4 "PWM"
09:32 < geertu> direction, and prepare R-Car V4H initial support, R-Car S4 board
09:32 < geertu> assignment, and RC21012 driver support for R-Car S4.
09:32 < geertu> Geert plans to review more patches, and do BSP mining.
09:32 < geertu> C) Problems we have currently:
09:32 < geertu> Morimoto-san is worried about EuroPeri people from Russian attack.
09:32 < geertu> Geert is worried by RZ/G2UL and RZ/Five sharing most of the part number.
09:32 < pinchartl> shimoday: :-) not everybody is going full speed in that direction yet, it's the start of a movement. as always being among the first ones can bring challenges, but also opportunities
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09:33 < geertu> pinchartl: leaders vs. followers
09:33 < marex> moriperi: what's "Yocto" again ? :)
09:33 < geertu> ---EOT---
09:33 < geertu> Anything I missed?
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09:33 < marex> moriperi: are you looking for bitbake project setup tool like https://github.com/siemens/kas this instead maybe ?
09:34 < moriperi> marex: It is tool to easy create Renesas Yocto BSP
09:34 < marex> moriperi: https://kas.readthedocs.io/en/latest/userguide.html?module-kas.plugins.menu#module-kas.plugins.menu comes with kconfig based menu too recently ;-)
09:35 < shimoday> pinchartl: i see
09:35 < geertu> shimoday: Can you please remind me again what's RC21012?
09:35 < shimoday> geertu: RC21012 is a clock generator, named VersaClock
09:35 < marex> moriperi: look at that 'kas' tool, I think that's what you're trying to implement
09:36 < patersonc[m]> moriperi: I'm not sure if KAS can handle the manual steps to copy the proprietary libs for the Renesas BSP. At least it didn't last time I looked. Everything else should be okay though
09:36 < geertu> shimoday: OK, so it's Spider-specific, not related to S4 in se
09:36 < marex> pinchartl: it probably can with a small python plugin
09:36 < marex> patersonc[m]: ^
09:36 < marex> the kconfig menu where you can implement e.g. board selection and feature on/off button is neat
09:37 < shimoday> geertu: yes, it's on Spider
09:37 < geertu> So Renesas jumped on the RISC-V train, and announced RZ/Five
09:37 < patersonc[m]> marex: oooohhhh. May have to look again
09:37 < patersonc[m]> Choo Choo
09:37 < marex> patersonc[m]: see that 'kas menu' thing ... it's very recent and it surprised me pleasantly
09:37 < geertu> Which is basically an RZ/G2UL with RISC-V CPU core and INTC instead of ARM and GIC
09:38 < marex> patersonc[m]: for basic users, that's really easy to get started
09:38 < moriperi> marex: patersonc[m]: thanks. I will check it
09:38 < geertu> Not that dissimi;ar from R-Car M1A, which is M1S (SH) + ARM
09:38 < geertu> dissimilar
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09:39 < geertu> damm is scared of RISC-V?
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09:39 < geertu> Hence both RZ/GUL and RZ/Five are R9A07G043, but using different suffixes (U vs F)
09:40 < patersonc[m]> Just to keep things "simple"
09:41 < geertu> Now, we already started using r9a06g043-based compatible values for RZ/G2UL, and I think we should continue doing so.
09:41 < damm> Nice to see
09:41 < geertu> r9a07g043-based, ofc.
09:41 < geertu> (one really has to use copy-'n-paste ;-)
09:42 < geertu> While most I/O devices are the same on 'u and 'F, of course there may/will be some subtle differences in core components like CPG and SYSC
09:42 < marex> moriperi: I sent you some further examples via PM, did you receive those ?
09:43 < moriperi> marex: PM = private mail ?
09:43 < wsa> that RZ/Five sounds nice
09:44 < geertu> So I think we should try to identify the differences early on, if possible, and see if we can handle them easily.
09:44 < marex> moriperi: private message , you might have another window in your irc client open now
09:44 < geertu> I want to avoid needing a proliferation of r9a07g043u-based compatible values, with all the churn that brings.
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09:44 < geertu> Do you agree?
09:45 < moriperi> marex: oops, I didn't notice the one.
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09:45 < patersonc[m]> geertu: Yep
09:46 < geertu> As initial documentation of RZ/Five is terse, and in Japanese, identification of the differences is non-trivial.
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09:52 < patersonc[m]> geertu: I'm told there will be a new manual due e/March
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09:53 < wsa> patersonc[m]: and when do we get boards? ;D
09:53 < geertu> patersonc[m]: That's good news. So we don't have to hurry, as the v5.19 merge window for soc will close at B/May
09:53 < geertu> wsa: You still don't have RISC-V boards? ;-)
09:54 < patersonc[m]> wsa: I'm actually working on that, although it may be quicker to get from distis. Not sure on the timeline yet. Finding components for building platforms is _hard_
09:54 < wsa> Nope, I only work with Renesas HW now <3
09:54 < wsa> ;)
09:55 < wsa> patersonc[m]: oh wow, it is really in the making... cool!
09:56 < geertu> wsa: mass production in June, according to the press release
09:56 < wsa> No hurry from my side, the boards I have around me have enough quirks still to be handled
09:56 < geertu> Anything else to discuss?
09:56 < patersonc[m]> wsa: Our team are actually the ones who make all the G2L* smarc platforms. So we get them first :P
09:57 < wsa> geertu: "in the making" == paperwork to get boards to us
09:57 < patersonc[m]> #madeinuk
09:57 < kbingham> patersonc[m], Oh, that will be easy to import for me then ;-)
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09:57 < wsa> heh, so this is export paperwork now as well
09:57 < wsa> except for Kieran :D
09:58 < geertu> kbingham: for you it will be, indeed...
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09:58 < wsa> kbingham has a nice lab...
09:58 < wsa> remote lab
09:59 * pinchartl plays Itsumo nando demo as a welcome waiting music for the MM meeting
09:59 < geertu> Next meeting. So we have a special meeting planned on March 31?
10:00 < geertu> Thanks for joining, and have a nice continued day!
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