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Multimedia-chat-meeting-2017-01-11

<pinchartl> good morning  [16:58]
<morimoto> morning
<uli___> morning
<neg> morning  [16:59]
<pinchartl> Kieran seems to have left the channel during the night. perhaps as
	    a consequence of too much birthday partying :-)
<pinchartl> any chance Magnus would join today ?  [17:00]
<morimoto> I have no idea about him :)  [17:01]
<pinchartl> I think I'll stop expecting him to join :-)
<morimoto> :)  [17:02]
<pinchartl> let's start then. I expect the meeting to be short today
*** kbingham (~kbingham@core.do.nakedgeek.co.uk) has joined channel #periperi
<pinchartl> hi Kieran !
<pinchartl> we were about to start
<pinchartl> Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks
<kbingham> sorry for being late - my IRC bouncer crashed :(
<pinchartl> Topic 2. Additional tasks for Q1 2017
<pinchartl> Topic 3. FOSDEM  [17:03]
<pinchartl> Topic 4. Next meeting
<pinchartl> anything else for the agenda ?
<pinchartl> no worries
<morimoto> ELC meeting plan I want to know
<pinchartl> ok, FOSDEM & ELC then
<pinchartl> let's get started with Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia
	    tasks  [17:05]
<pinchartl> Kieran, will you do the honours ?
<kbingham> pinchartl: I thought you might say that :D
<kbingham> So - to start, since last meeting:
<kbingham>  - Holidays  [17:06]
<kbingham>  - Had my birthday
<kbingham>  - Suspend resume patches reposted
<kbingham>  - Rebased all my topic branches
<kbingham> And I'm currently working on the image partitioning overlap topic
<kbingham> So B) Plan until next meeting:  [17:07]
<kbingham>  - At two weeks away, I hope I will have made most of the headway
	   to getting the image partitioning task complete, possibly mixed in
	   with some of the work on the vsp-test improvements  - but with no
	   confirmation from renesas, I guess those topics could stop at any
	   time.  [17:08]
<kbingham> leaving C)
<kbingham> - current work still pending contract from Renesas  [17:09]
<kbingham> - Experiencing some issues on vsp-unit-test-0003.sh
<kbingham> : EOT : Sorry - Would normally  prepare the text for this in
	   advance - but finished early due to my birthday yesterday :D
								        [17:10]
<pinchartl> thank you  [17:11]
<kbingham> pinchartl: Is there anything you'd like me to do on the pending
	   topic branches?  [17:12]
<pinchartl> could you push them to your public tree ? I'll review the patches
	    you posted
<kbingham> Ok - I'll push my rebased updates.
<kbingham> Should they be re-emailed?  [17:13]
<pinchartl> not if it's just a rebase, I'll review them first  [17:14]
<pinchartl> if they have otherwise changed, please resend them
<kbingham> Ok.  [17:15]
<pinchartl> next in alphabetical order, me
<pinchartl> Since last meeting:
<pinchartl> - Holidays  [17:16]
<pinchartl> - New version of the Gen3 HDMI output patches (split in topic
	    branches)
<pinchartl> - Started experimenting with fences in the DU driver
<pinchartl> - DRM/KMS community discussions to get the LVDS mode select, LVDS
	    encoder and HDMI output merged (or at least closer to be merged)
<pinchartl> - Helped Jinzai to test HDMI output
<pinchartl> For the next two weeks:
<pinchartl> - Pending VSP patch review
<pinchartl> - Continue advancing Gen3 HDMI output towards merging
<pinchartl> - V4L2 & media controller race conditions meeting in Oslo with
	    Hans Verkuil & Sakari Ailus
<pinchartl> (that's this Friday)
<pinchartl> Issues and blockers:
<pinchartl> - No additional task yet for 2017/Q1  [17:17]
<pinchartl> and I will be on holidays from the 20th to the 28th
<kbingham> pinchartl: Of january?  [17:18]
<pinchartl> yes
<kbingham> pinchartl: Ok :D
<pinchartl> skiing in the French Alps
<pinchartl> I'll have e-mail access
<neg> pinchartl: will you also discusss Media Device Allocator API in Oslo
      (that is if it's to be pushed or dropped)?  [17:19]
<pinchartl> morimoto: that's a topic we've discussed already, but I had to
	    hand-hold Jinzai because they seemed not to be able to select the
	    HDMI driver in the kernel config by themselves...
<pinchartl> neg: not as such. we'll discuss what needs to be fixed in order to
	    get that API merged
<pinchartl> I want to fix the current code base before building anything new
	    on top of it
<neg> ok thanks for the update  [17:20]
<pinchartl> next, Morimoto-san  [17:21]
<morimoto> OK
<morimoto> A) - Enjoyed New Year
<morimoto> - I posted ALSA SoC framework fixup patches
<morimoto> - Helped BSP team about sound  [17:22]
<morimoto> B) I will rebase my HDMI sound on pinchartl's latest branch
<morimoto> - I will book ELC hotel / flight etc
<morimoto> C) nothing
<morimoto> --EOT--
<pinchartl> thank you
<pinchartl> neg: your turn  [17:23]
<neg> A) Noting (rebasaed all my topic branches on v4.10-rc1 and test them)
								        [17:24]
<neg> B) Fix review comments and repost CSI-2 and breakout fixup patches from
      VIN Gen3 series and repost as seperat series (needad as to not block
      Wolframs work) and pray that series is reviewd/picked up :-)
<neg> C) None
<neg> EOT
<pinchartl> is it OK with you if I start by reviewing the CSI-2 driver,
	    followed by the VIN driver ?  [17:25]
<neg> yes, but maybe we can fast track the break out fixup VIN patches as to
      not block Wolfram?  [17:26]
<neg> those patches will be small and only deal with Gen2 concepts
<pinchartl> oh yes sure  [17:27]
<neg> thanks
<pinchartl> I meant CSI-2 before VIN Gen3, but obviously other VIN patches can
	    go in first
<neg> would you prefer I try to get CIS-2 merged before Gen3 VIN patches?
<neg> s/CIS/CSI/  [17:28]
<pinchartl> it might be easier
<pinchartl> but it also makes sense to merge everything anyway
<pinchartl> so I have no big preference at the moment
<neg> ok then I will stop trying to hold CSI-2 back to be merged after VIN
      Gen3 and which ever is picked up first is OK
<pinchartl> next, uli___  [17:29]
<uli___> a)
<uli___> - vacation
<uli___> - investigated what it takes to get gpu going with binary blobs on
	 gen3  [17:30]
<uli___> b)
<uli___> - trying not to succumb to the infection that has incapacitated my
	 wife for a week...
<uli___> c)
<uli___> - add. tasks not finalized yet
<uli___> that's it
<pinchartl> thank you  [17:31]
<pinchartl> before going to the next topic
<pinchartl> I'd like to thank Morimoto-san for sending his report over e-mail
<pinchartl> given that we're just out of the winter holidays, without much to
	    report, I'll ignore the fact that nobody else has
<pinchartl> but please remember to post a summary before next meeting  [17:32]
<pinchartl> Topic 2. Additional tasks for 2017/Q1
<pinchartl> as you all know, we have no additional tasks finalized for 2017/Q1
<pinchartl> there were discussions at the end of last year
<pinchartl> and before a conclusion could be reached the winter holidays
	    started and Magnus disappeared  [17:33]
<pinchartl> I haven't heard anything from him since then
<pinchartl> which starts worrying me
<morimoto> Magnus disappeared...
<pinchartl> morimoto: do you have any information ?
<morimoto> I will meet him tomorrow.
<morimoto> I will kick him  [17:34]
<pinchartl> thank you
<morimoto> for you guys :)
<pinchartl> I've already started working on tasks that will likely be selected
	    for 2017/Q1
<kbingham> wear heavy boots :D
<pinchartl> so has Kieran, and from what I've heard today from Ulrich, he did
	    as well
<pinchartl> but there's no contract signed yet
<pinchartl> so this is really a gesture of good faith
<pinchartl> not a situation that I want to experience again in the future
<pinchartl> it shows that the task negotiation process doesn't work  [17:35]
<pinchartl> it's the second time we're late, albeit last time the delay was
	    shorter
<pinchartl> so I will request to move back to a single batch per quarter
<uli___> i think i would prefer that as well  [17:37]
<pinchartl> as there seems to be no comment about this,
<pinchartl> (oops, except for that comment :-))
<pinchartl> Topic 3. FOSDEM & ELC
<pinchartl> we have reserved time for a multimedia meeting on the Thursday
	    before FOSDEM, but given the lack of contracts, and thus the lack
	    of topics to discuss, I don't plan to organize such a meeting
								        [17:38]
<pinchartl> I will be in Brussels the whole week before the FOSDEM, so if any
	    of you happens to be there and wants to schedule an ad-hoc
	    meeting, I'll be available  [17:39]
<pinchartl> I believe Kieran will be there from Wednesday as well  [17:40]
<kbingham> ACK.
<neg> Was not Q2 contract proposals a topic for that meeting?  [17:41]
<pinchartl> neg: it was, but Magnus won't be there, and we don't have Q1
	    contracts yet
<neg> Ahh I though Magnus would be there, my mistake  [17:42]
<pinchartl> when will everybody be available in Brussels ? Kieran, you'll be
	    there from Feb the 1st to the 6th, right ? how about Niklas and
	    Ulrich ?
<uli___> i won't be there. i've fallen ill every single time i have attended
	 fosdem, and this time i just won't go. no kidding at all.
								        [17:43]
<uli___> come back when it's in june
<neg> I was planing to arrive on Wed evening to be aviable for Multimedia
      meeting, but if that is off I think I move my arrival date to Thu
      evening
<pinchartl> ok  [17:44]
<pinchartl> Morimoto-san wanted to know more about our ELC plans  [17:45]
<morimoto> Yes. Do we have MM meeting ?
<neg> and yes also leving in the morning the 6th. But if there are plans or
      suspicions of plans for meetings please let me know and I can adjust my
      schedule
<pinchartl> nothing has currently been scheduled, as everything regarding
	    multimedia planning has been on hold since end of December and the
	    lack of contracts  [17:46]
<pinchartl> officially, right now there's no multimedia team anymore
<pinchartl> so before scheduling a meeting, we should sort that out
<morimoto> pinchartl: scheduling a meeting = ELC meeting ? or FOSDEM meeting ?
								        [17:47]
<pinchartl> both
<morimoto> OK
<morimoto> and MagPeri is the Key guys ?
<pinchartl> he seems to be
<morimoto> OK  [17:48]
<neg> morimoto: which dates do you plan to be at ELC? I think I change my mind
      and intend to go if I can find a good flight :-)
<morimoto> at this point, maybe 20th - 24th
<neg> so that would leave the 20th and 24th for possible meeting days ?
								        [17:49]
<morimoto> that the reason why I'm asking about meeting :)  [17:50]
<morimoto> If we have meeting, the plan will be changed
<pinchartl> I will arrive on the 18th and leave on the 25th
<pinchartl> the 19th (Sunday), 20th and 24th are currently free
<pinchartl> but I expect a V4L2 meeting to be scheduled, likely on the 20th
<morimoto> pinchartl: Do you think "media-layer" will be discussed on V4L2
	   meeting ?  [17:52]
<pinchartl> what do you mean by media-layer ?
<morimoto> V4L2 + ALSA need media-layer for OF-graph ?
<pinchartl> probably not  [17:53]
<pinchartl> it will likely be focussed on core media controller problems
<neg> OK, in order to be able to book flights maybe we can aim to keep the
      24th open for a possible meeting if the contract situation is sorted
      out? My understanding is that nither Geert nor Wolfram will attend ELC
      so MM is the only possible meeting at that time?  [17:54]
<pinchartl> the 24th would be nice
<pinchartl> if you can be there on both the 20th and the 24th it would give us
	    some flexibility
<pinchartl> and you could join the V4L2 meeting when it will be scheduled :-)
								        [17:55]
<neg> cool then I try to book flight to arrive 19 and leave 25
<morimoto> cool. I will re-schedule for ELC
<neg> yes if possible I would like to attend the V4L2 meeting, without
      periperi scheduling collision :-)
<pinchartl> last topic  [17:56]
<pinchartl> Topic 4. Next meeting
<pinchartl> I will be on holidays in two weeks from now
<pinchartl> so we can schedule a meeting in a week
<pinchartl> or in three weeks
<pinchartl> one week is likely too short as we have no contract at the moment
<pinchartl> 3 weeks seems better
<pinchartl> but that might collide with Kieran's travel plans for the FOSDEM
								        [17:57]
<pinchartl> (which would give Kieran a good excuse to not attend the meeting
	    :-))
<pinchartl> would wednesday 2017-02-01 at 08:00 GMT / 09:00 CET / 10:00 EET /
	    17:00 JST work ?
<kbingham> it does cut it close ... but its actually probably just about
	   do-able ... as long as I book my taxi to pick me up at the end of
	   the meeting :D  [17:58]
<pinchartl> :-)
<kbingham> So yes, fine by me.
<pinchartl> if you have to skip it's not an issue
<pinchartl> does it work for everybody else ?
<uli___> ok for me
<neg> OK for me  [17:59]
<morimoto> OK for me too
<pinchartl> perfect, it's agreed then
<pinchartl> I propose adjourning this meeting  [18:00]
<pinchartl> does anyone second ?
<kbingham> seconded and running downstairs to make tea :D
<pinchartl> :-)
<pinchartl> meeting adjourned
<pinchartl> thank you everybody for attending
<pinchartl> have a nice day/evening  [18:01]
<morimoto> Thanks
<uli___> see you
<neg> thanks all