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Chat Report 2016-07-06

We had a multimedia group meeting on 2016-07-06. Here's a summary of the 
discussions. Please correct any mistake you would notice.

Attendees:

- Kieran
- Laurent
- Morimoto-san
- Niklas
- Ulrich

Magnus was excused.


Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks
----------------------------------------------

- FDP,v4.8,prototype,kieran,Develop and upstream driver

Patches have been posted for public review, DT bindings have been acked. 
Development itself is complete, the task will be split in two with only the 
upstreaming part remaining. The upstreaming target is v4.9.

- AUDIO-DMAC,?,plan,magnus,IPMMU integration on Gen2
- AUDIO-DMAC,?,plan,magnus,IPMMU integration on Gen3
- AUDIO-DMAC,?,plan,magnus,IPMMU support on Gen2
- AUDIO-DMAC,?,plan,magnus,IPMMU support on Gen3
- VIN,?,prototype,magnus,IPMMU integration on Gen2
- VIN,?,prototype,magnus,IPMMU integration on Gen3
- VIN,?,prototype,magnus,IPMMU support on Gen2
- VIN,?,prototype,magnus,IPMMU support on Gen3

No progress.

- RSND,v4.10,public,morimoto,DT bindings for graph sound
- RSND,v4.10,public,morimoto,dw-hdmi-i2s-audio prototype on Gen3
- RSND,v4.10,prototype,morimoto,HDMI SSI prototype on Gen3
- RSND,v4.10,plan,morimoto,HDMI sound Upstream support without hotplug on Gen2
- RSND,2016-09-30,plan,morimoto,Hotplug support upstream on Gen3

The ALSA + HDMI patches are organized as follows.

1. Cleanup
2. OF graph
3. OF graph-based new sound card
4. HDMI sound driver

Patches for 1. and 2. have been posted. Cleanup is progressing slowly. OF 
graph DT bindings (2) have passed maintainer's review, but the implementation 
(3) is required before the patches can be merged.

DT bindings will also be discussed during PeriPeriCon.

- ADV7482,v4.7,public,niklas,Prototype on Gen3
- VIN,v4.7,public,niklas,CSI2 prototype (Gen3)

The tasks are complete.

- ADV7482,v4.9,plan,niklas,Gen3 support upstream
- ADV7482,v4.9,plan,niklas,Interlace support upstream
- VIN,v4.9,plan,niklas,CSI2 interlace support upstream (Gen3)
- VIN,v4.9,plan,niklas,CSI2 support upstream (Gen3)
- VIN,v4.9,plan,niklas,Gen3 support upstream (without CSI-2)

No progress.

- VIN,v4.8,public,niklas,Gen3 support

No progress. Upstreaming requires deciding how to handle the ADV7482, moving 
the task to v4.9 as a result.

- VIN,v4.8,plan,niklas,Scaler support (on Gen3)

No progress. A prototype will hopefully be implemented before PeriPeriCon. 
Moving to v4.9 for upstreaming.

- DU,v4.7,plan,ulrich,Atomic API test program
- DU,v4.7,prototype,ulrich,Test setup with HDMI output to HDMI input loopback 
(without EDID)

The test application and setup are public, marking as complete.

- DU,v4.7,public,ulrich,HDMI output on Gen3 prototype

The prototype is public, marking as complete.

- DU,v4.7,public,ulrich,EDID generation support for the HDMI loopback test 
setup

Patches will be posted today.

- DU,v4.9,plan,ulrich,HDMI output on Gen3 upstream

No progress.

- VIN,v4.8,public,ulrich,Add DV timings support to rcar-vin

The patches have been merged to the linux-media tree, they should end up in 
v4.8. Marking as complete.

- DU,?,plan,laurent,IPMMU integration on Gen3
- DU,?,plan,laurent,IPMMU support on Gen3 (through VSPD+FCP)
- DU,v4.9,plan,laurent,Fix 3 planes formats
- VSP,?,plan,laurent,Fixed alpha support (VI6_DPR_*_ROUTE.FXA)

No progress.

- VSP,?,plan,laurent,UDS regression fix

UDS on Gen3 can scale images wider than 128 or 256 pixels. It requires slicing 
(partitioning) input images in software and running the VSP pipeline for each 
slice. Renaming the task to "Image partitioning support". This will require a 
significant amount of work. There's no completion estimate as the task hasn't 
been scheduled yet.

- VSP,v4.8,plan,laurent,Fix suspend/resume crash

No progress. The task isn't scheduled, removing the target version.

- VSP,v4.8,public,laurent,HGO operation mode selection
- VSP,v4.8,public,laurent,HGO support upstream on Gen3
- VSP,v4.8,public,laurent,HGO test application

No progress. A pull request will hopefully be sent this week, but this will be 
too late for v4.8. Moving to v4.9 as a result.

- VSP,v4.8,prototype,laurent,Rotation support

Rotation itself is implemented, but requires image partitioning support for 
images wider than 256 pixels. Removing the target version due to the 
dependency.

- VSP,v4.8,public,laurent,V4L2 request API usable prototype

Patches should go out today.

- VSP,?,prototype,laurent,V4L2 request API upstream

No progress.


Topic 2. Additional '50%' tasks (June)
--------------------------------------

The additional tasks are

- VIN CSI-2 Support Prototype
- ADV7482 Driver Prototype
- VSP CLU Improvements
- VSP Rotation Support
- HDMI Input/Output Loopback for R-Car Gen2
- FDP Support on Gen3

All tasks are complete, with a caveat for rotation support that requires image 
partitioning for images wider than 256 pixels. Rotation will automatically 
work for wider images once image partitioning is implemented.


Topic 3. Additional '50%' tasks (Q3)
------------------------------------

Due to unforeseen and sad circumstances that required Magnus to travel to 
Sweden negotiation of the tasks got delayed.

The two tasks currently planned for Ulrich are

- VIN HDMI input EDID
- VIN integration on Gen2

For Niklas we have initially discussed the UDS regression fix, but as it turns 
out it will require more work than expected it wasn't a good match. The 
current plan is to implement support for one of the currently unimplemented 
VSP modules. The SHP (sharpener) was mentioned but the hardware isn't fully 
documented and the available source code just programs registers with 
parameters passed by upper software layers that are not available to us.
We will thus likely switch to a different module.


Topic 4. PeriPeriCon & RenesasCon preparation
---------------------------------------------

Topics proposed for PeriPeriCon are

- OF graph for ALSA (Morimoto-san)
- V4L2 support for subdevices with more than one output pipeline (Niklas)
- Second batch of additional tasks for Q3 (Laurent)
- What are we doing right or wrong, and how can we improve (Laurent)
- Long-term roadmap (Laurent)

The topic owners should prepare a very short presentation when appropriate to 
quickstart the discussion and get everybody on the same page.

The https://osdr.renesas.com/projects/linux-kernel-development/wiki#PeriPeriCon wiki page contains more information about the 
PeriPeriCon schedule.


Topic 5. Next meeting
---------------------

The next meeting will be held at PeriPeriCon on Monday the 11th of July. The 
next IRC meeting will be held on 2016-07-27 at 09:00 BST / 10:00 CEST / 11:00 
EEST / 17:00 JST.


h1. Multimedia-chat-meeting-2016-07-06


<neg> hi all  [16:54]
<morimoto> hi  [16:55]
<pinchartl> hello  [16:56]
<uli___> hi
<pinchartl> I assume Magnus will not joing us
<kbingham> Morning all!
<pinchartl> let's get started  [16:58]
<pinchartl> agenda for today
<pinchartl> Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks
<pinchartl> Topic 2. Additional '50%' tasks (June)
<pinchartl> Topic 3. Additional '50%' tasks (Q3)  [16:59]
<pinchartl> Topic 4. PeriPeriCon & RenesasCon preparation
<pinchartl> Topic 5. Next meeting
<pinchartl> anything else ?
<morimoto> nothing from me ;P  [17:00]
<pinchartl> ok
<pinchartl> let me take the tasks list
<pinchartl> in alphabetical order  [17:02]
<pinchartl> FDP,v4.8,prototype,kieran,Develop and upstream driver
<pinchartl> I believe the driver was posted for public review
<kbingham> Patches all out for review.
<kbingham> Yes, the dt-bindings look like they've been acked, and simon has
	   acknowledged and will pick those I believe.  [17:03]
<pinchartl> I've reviewed a previous version of the patches and they look
	    pretty good to me
<kbingham> For the FDP1 driver, I would say we're just waiting for some review
	   to happen on the linux-media lists.
<pinchartl> I'll review the public version too
<pinchartl> the corresponding task didn't include upstreaming, so it's
	    complete  [17:04]
<pinchartl> I propose splitting this item in two
<pinchartl> development and upstreaming
<pinchartl> and marking development as complete  [17:05]
<kbingham> Ok. Sounds good to me.
<pinchartl> v4.8 will be a bit tight for upstreaming  [17:06]
<pinchartl> I'll schedule it for v4.9
<kbingham> yes, that sounds more feasible.
<pinchartl> next, Magnus  [17:08]
<pinchartl> who's not available
<pinchartl> AUDIO-DMAC,?,plan,magnus,IPMMU integration on Gen2
<pinchartl> AUDIO-DMAC,?,plan,magnus,IPMMU integration on Gen3
<pinchartl> AUDIO-DMAC,?,plan,magnus,IPMMU support on Gen2
<pinchartl> AUDIO-DMAC,?,plan,magnus,IPMMU support on Gen3
<pinchartl> VIN,?,prototype,magnus,IPMMU integration on Gen2
<pinchartl> VIN,?,prototype,magnus,IPMMU integration on Gen3
<pinchartl> VIN,?,prototype,magnus,IPMMU support on Gen2
<pinchartl> VIN,?,prototype,magnus,IPMMU support on Gen3
<pinchartl> is anyone aware of any progress there ?
<pinchartl> I'll take that as a no :-)  [17:09]
<neg> I know he started to look at VIN+IPMMU not sure how far he got  [17:10]
<pinchartl> we don't have a "started looking at but not sure" status, I'll
	    leave it as-is :-)
<pinchartl> next, Morimoto-san  [17:11]
<pinchartl> RSND,v4.10,public,morimoto,DT bindings for graph sound
<pinchartl> RSND,v4.10,public,morimoto,dw-hdmi-i2s-audio prototype on Gen3
<pinchartl> RSND,v4.10,prototype,morimoto,HDMI SSI prototype on Gen3
<pinchartl> RSND,v4.10,plan,morimoto,HDMI sound Upstream support without
	    hotplug on Gen2
<pinchartl> RSND,2016-09-30,plan,morimoto,Hotplug support upstream on Gen3
<morimoto> My ALSA + HDMI patch-set are 
<morimoto> 1) cleanup patches  [17:12]
<morimoto> 2) OF graph patches
<morimoto> 3) OF graph base new sound card patches
<morimoto> 4) HDMI sound driver patches
<morimoto> I posted 1) and 2)
<morimoto> 1) is slow progress
<morimoto> Maintainer said 2) is OK for him, but he want to see 3)  [17:13]
<morimoto> So, 2) and 3) will be merged and posted in next time
<pinchartl> nice
<morimoto> But, I don't know how to handle it on each Maintainer  [17:14]
<morimoto> I'm asking it now
<pinchartl> ok
<morimoto> I asked about 2) to you pinchartl :)
<morimoto> about port vs endpoint on video/sound
<morimoto> not a big deal, but DT change after formal is difficult ?  [17:15]
<pinchartl> I know
<pinchartl> I haven't had time to review the patches yet
<pinchartl> I'll try to do it this week but I can't promise
<morimoto> OK
<morimoto> that's it from me  [17:16]
<morimoto> Maybe we can talk about it on MiniPeriCon ?
<pinchartl> that's a good idea  [17:17]
<morimoto> Thanks
<pinchartl> next, Niklas
<pinchartl> ADV7482,v4.7,public,niklas,Prototype on Gen3  [17:18]
<pinchartl> ADV7482,v4.9,plan,niklas,Gen3 support upstream
<pinchartl> ADV7482,v4.9,plan,niklas,Interlace support upstream
<pinchartl> VIN,v4.7,public,niklas,CSI2 prototype (Gen3)
<pinchartl> VIN,v4.8,public,niklas,Gen3 support
<pinchartl> VIN,v4.8,plan,niklas,Scaler support (on Gen3
<pinchartl> VIN,v4.9,plan,niklas,CSI2 interlace support upstream (Gen3)
<pinchartl> VIN,v4.9,plan,niklas,CSI2 support upstream (Gen3)
<pinchartl> VIN,v4.9,plan,niklas,Gen3 support upstream (without CSI-2)
<neg> easy this time, no progress so far. Hope to have a new VIN patchset with
      UDS support done before I leave for Tokyo  [17:19]
<pinchartl> ok  [17:21]
<pinchartl> for VIN,v4.8,public,niklas,Gen3 support
<pinchartl> should that be moved to v4.9 ?
<neg> yes since I think we need to figure out what/if to extend v4l2 to
      support the ADV7482 first  [17:22]
<pinchartl> and regarding No progress, will hopefully be implemented before
	    PeriPeriCon.  [17:23]
<pinchartl> oops
<pinchartl> ADV7482,v4.7,public,niklas,Prototype on Gen3
<pinchartl> VIN,v4.7,public,niklas,CSI2 prototype (Gen3)
<neg> or do you think there is value to try and get driver up as soon as
      possible that only works with a 1 output version of the adv7482?
<pinchartl> as those are prototype tasks
<pinchartl> they''re complete, right ?
<neg> yes  [17:24]
<pinchartl> thanks  [17:25]
<pinchartl> for Gen3 support I don't think we need to rush the merge
<pinchartl> it's likely too late for v4.8 already anyway  [17:26]
<pinchartl> I'll move the scaler to v4.9 too  [17:27]
<pinchartl> next, Ulrich
<neg> thanks
<pinchartl> DU,v4.7,plan,ulrich,Atomic API test program
<pinchartl> DU,v4.7,public,ulrich,HDMI output on Gen3 prototype
<pinchartl> DU,v4.7,prototype,ulrich,Test setup with HDMI output to HDMI input
	    loopback (without EDID)
<pinchartl> DU,v4.7,public,ulrich,EDID generation support for the HDMI
	    loopback test setup
<pinchartl> DU,v4.9,plan,ulrich,HDMI output on Gen3 upstream
<uli___> the test setup is up on elinux/github  [17:28]
<uli___> edid generation will go out today
<uli___> that's it
<pinchartl> do you mean the HDMI loopback test setup ?  [17:30]
<uli___> yes
<pinchartl> how about DU,v4.7,plan,ulrich,Atomic API test program ?
<uli___> i moved the wiki pages
<uli___> that's what was missing, iirc
<pinchartl> thanks  [17:31]
<pinchartl> and DU,v4.7,public,ulrich,HDMI output on Gen3 prototype  [17:32]
<pinchartl> is that considered as complete ?
<uli___> let's consider it as such.  [17:33]
<pinchartl> there was also  [17:34]
<pinchartl> VIN,v4.8,public,ulrich,Add DV timings support to rcar-vin
<uli___> that has been picked up recently
<pinchartl> nice  [17:35]
<pinchartl> by Hans ?
<uli___> i just saw the auto-generated e-mail for the media tree
<pinchartl> then they have been applied by Mauro, perfect
<pinchartl> next, me, messing up the alphabetical order again  [17:37]
<pinchartl> DU,?,plan,laurent,IPMMU integration on Gen3
<pinchartl> DU,?,plan,laurent,IPMMU support on Gen3 (through VSPD+FCP)
<pinchartl> DU,v4.9,plan,laurent,Fix 3 planes formats
<pinchartl> no progress
<pinchartl> VSP,?,plan,laurent,Fixed alpha support (VI6_DPR_*_ROUTE.FXA)
<pinchartl> no progress
<pinchartl> VSP,?,plan,laurent,UDS regression fix  [17:38]
<pinchartl> it turns out that this requires implementing image partitioning
	    support in the VSP driver
<pinchartl> as, unlike the VSP1 in Gen2, the VSP2 in Gen3 can't scale images
	    wider than 128 or 256 pixels (I have to check for the exact
	    number)
<pinchartl> so the images must be sliced by software, and the VSP run for each
	    slice  [17:39]
<pinchartl> I'll thus rename the task to "Image partitioning support"  [17:40]
<pinchartl> UDS will work out of the box then
<morimoto> pinchartl: about UDS regression, it was VSP driver side issue do
	   you mean ?  [17:41]
<pinchartl> it wasn't a regression  [17:42]
<pinchartl> or rather
<pinchartl> it's a hardware regression
<morimoto> Ahh, OK
<pinchartl> that requires significant additional work in the VSP driver
<pinchartl> VSP,v4.8,plan,laurent,Fix suspend/resume crash  [17:43]
<pinchartl> this isn't scheduled, I'll remove the target version
<pinchartl> VSP,v4.8,public,laurent,HGO operation mode selection  [17:44]
<pinchartl> VSP,v4.8,public,laurent,HGO support upstream on Gen3
<pinchartl> VSP,v4.8,public,laurent,HGO test application
<pinchartl> no progress
<pinchartl> I hope to send a pull request this week
<pinchartl> but it might be too late for v4.8
<pinchartl> I'll move it to v4.9  [17:45]
<pinchartl> VSP,v4.8,prototype,laurent,Rotation support
<pinchartl> rotation itself is implemented
<pinchartl> but it also requires image partitioning support for images wider
	    than 256 pixels  [17:46]
<pinchartl> this is a dependency that I wasn't aware of
<pinchartl> I'll thus remove the target version due to the dependency on image
	    partitioning that hasn't been scheduled yet  [17:47]
<pinchartl> VSP,v4.8,public,laurent,V4L2 request API usable prototype  [17:48]
<pinchartl> I was hoping to send the latest version Monday last week but got
	    delayed, partly by the preparation of additional tasks for the
	    multimedia team for Q3  [17:49]
<pinchartl> and then by being unavailable from Friday to Tuesday
<pinchartl> I'll resume now, the patches should go out today
<morimoto> BSP team want to use latest verion on renesas-driver.  [17:50]
<pinchartl> as soon as the patches are out I'll of course send a pull request
	    to Geert  [17:51]
<morimoto> sound gr8
<pinchartl> that's it for the tasks  [17:53]
<pinchartl> Topic 2. Additional '50%' tasks (June)
<morimoto> pinchartl: what is current status of CLU/LUT ?
<pinchartl> merged
<morimoto> nice !
<pinchartl> - VIN CSI-2 Support Prototype  [17:54]
<pinchartl> - ADV7482 Driver Prototype
<pinchartl> - VSP CLU Improvements
<pinchartl> - VSP Rotation Support
<pinchartl> - HDMI Input/Output Loopback for R-Car Gen2
<pinchartl> - FDP Support on Gen3
<pinchartl> I believe everything is complete
<pinchartl> except for VSP rotation support
<pinchartl> that is complete for images not wider than 256 pixels
<pinchartl> Topic 3. Additional '50%' tasks (Q3)  [17:55]
<morimoto> uli___: what is latest status of HDMI out for ES1.1 issue ?
<pinchartl> (go ahead, we'll move to topic 3 after)  [17:56]
<morimoto> pinchartl: sorry
<uli___> still todo...
<morimoto> OK.
<pinchartl> creation of the 50% tasks for Q3 has been delayed  [17:57]
<pinchartl> I've submitted the tasks for Ulrich, all others are still under
	    discussion with Magnus
<pinchartl> due to unforeseen and sad circumstances it didn't go as expected
<pinchartl> uli___: have you received an SoW from Jinzai ?
<uli___> not yet  [17:58]
<uli___> for the 50% tasks, that is
<pinchartl> ok
<pinchartl> the two tasks currently planned for Ulrich are  [17:59]
<pinchartl> VIN HDMI input EDID
<pinchartl> VIN integration on Gen2
<pinchartl> for Niklas we have initially discussed the UDS regression fix
								        [18:00]
<pinchartl> but as it turns out it will require more work than expected it
	    wasn't a good match
<pinchartl> the current plan is to implement support for one of the currently
	    unimplemented VSP modules
<pinchartl> the SHP (sharpener) was mentioned  [18:01]
<pinchartl> but the hardware isn't fully documented
<pinchartl> and the available source code just programs registers with
	    parameters passed by upper software layers that are not available
	    to us
<pinchartl> so we'll likely switch to a different module
<pinchartl> for Kieran and me the situation isn't clear either, I expected
	    feedback from Magnus today  [18:02]
<pinchartl> we'll try to fix this asap  [18:03]
<kbingham> Understandable if magnus is away.
<pinchartl> Topic 4. PeriPeriCon & RenesasCon preparation  [18:04]
<pinchartl> unless there are questions about the additional tasks for Q3 ?
<neg> I'm good for now :-)  [18:05]
<pinchartl> for, for peripericon  [18:06]
<pinchartl> s/for/so/
<pinchartl> we'll discuss multimedia topics on Monday afternoon
<pinchartl> there's no fixed agenda yet
<pinchartl> now is the time to propose topics :-)
<morimoto> I would like to talk about OF graph  [18:07]
<neg> extensions to v4l2 to support subdevices with more then one output
      pipeline
<pinchartl> anything else ? uli___ and kbingham I know you won't be there, but
	    are there topics you would like us to discuss ?  [18:09]
<uli___> can't think of anything  [18:10]
<pinchartl> I'd like to discuss the following topics
<pinchartl> - Second batch of additional tasks for Q3
<pinchartl> - What are we doing right or wrong, and how can we improve
<pinchartl> - Long-term roadmap
<neg> hum I don't know if this is on the roadmap but if there is plans to
      support audio in or CEC from VIN HDMI how that would work. But maybe
      that is covered in morimoto topic about OF graph?  [18:11]
<kbingham> the current m2m design is limited and seems to prevent pipelined
	   usage of hw ... but I think that's possibly a topic for linux-media
	   . But that's the only thing I can think of on my future discussion
	   lists.
<pinchartl> neg: I might be mistaken but I don't think we have hardware
	    support for CEC  [18:12]
<pinchartl> the target market for Renesas devices isn't exactly consumer
	    electronics :-)  [18:13]
<pinchartl> kbingham: yes, I think that's a topic for linux-media
<pinchartl> I'll write it down as a potential task for the future
<neg> pinchartl: hum ofc CEC is terminated in the adv7482 so it might not be
      high on the agenda  [18:14]
<pinchartl> ah, ADV7482 has CEC support ?
<pinchartl> good to know
<pinchartl> I'm sure Hans would be interested
<pinchartl> but I don't think Renesas would. we should of course ask
<pinchartl> same for audio input. Morimoto-san, do you know if there's an
	    interest in HDMI audio input ?  [18:15]
<morimoto> Yeah, of course
<morimoto> Oops,
<morimoto> Do you mean BSP request ?
<morimoto> BSP team doesn't have such request at this point.  [18:16]
<pinchartl> either an existing BSP request, or something that would be of
	    interest to them in the future
<pinchartl> same for HDMI CEC support, is there an interest ?
<morimoto> but it seems they are starting about HDMI support for customer
<morimoto> I can say BSP team is stating about "HDMI" only, they don't know
	   detail of it :)  [18:17]
<pinchartl> ok
<morimoto> So yes, in the future, they will request such detail feature
<pinchartl> we can discuss that during RenesasCon  [18:18]
<pinchartl> I'll send out the list of topics for PeriPeriCon in the meeting
	    report, if anyone wants to add topics to the agenda it will still
	    be possible until the end of the week
<pinchartl> Morimoto-san and Niklas, could you each prepare a very brief
	    presentation for the topic you proposed for the meeting ?
								        [18:19]
<pinchartl> it should be 5 minutes long at most
<pinchartl> just to get everybody on the same page to start discussions
<morimoto> on email ? or here ?
<pinchartl> no, for PeriPeriCon  [18:20]
<neg> will do
<morimoto> OK, will do
<pinchartl> thank you
<pinchartl> regarding RenesasCon
<pinchartl> I propose finalizing the preparation for it during PeriPeriCon
<pinchartl> Renesas is driving the agenda there  [18:21]
<pinchartl> but it will be a good occasion to ask questions
<pinchartl> for instance regarding HDMI audio input and CEC
<pinchartl> I will also prepare a presentation of the multimedia group
	    activities  [18:22]
<pinchartl> neg: I've seen the slides you've sent, thank you
<pinchartl> morimoto: do you think we need a detailed presentation from each
	    developer, or a single summary presentation of our activities ?
								        [18:23]
<neg> I hope they are on the right level for the event. Thanks morimoto for
      your comments!
<morimoto> pinchartl: it up to you :) I can say it is free style  [18:24]
<morimoto> neg: no problem :P
<morimoto> basically, 1 person has 10min. style is free  [18:25]
<morimoto> BTW, I created Wiki page for MiniPeriCon and RenesasCon  [18:26]
<morimoto>
	   https://osdr.renesas.com/projects/linux-kernel-development/wiki#PeriPeriCon
<morimoto> We can use it
<morimoto> 
<pinchartl> thank you
<pinchartl> I think that's it then  [18:27]
<pinchartl> the next multimedia meeting will be during PeriPeriCon
<morimoto> sounds nice :)
<pinchartl> and the one after that will be on Wednesday two weeks later, I'll
	    send an invite
* kbingham wishes he was going to Japan :)   [18:28]
<pinchartl> kbingham: it's not too late to book a plane ticket ;-)
<neg> I have a practical question for peripericon and renesascon, do anyone
      plan to bring a HDMI->VGA adapter incase we find an old beamer :-)
<morimoto> kbingham: can we meet on Oct ELCE ?
<kbingham> morimoto: Of course :) I'll be at ELCE
<kbingham> pinchartl: It's not the ticket preventing me from going to japan
	   next week :)  [18:29]
<morimoto> Oops, we need projector on MiniPeriCon ? I need to prepare
<pinchartl> morimoto: yes, that would be useful
<pinchartl> neg: I don't have one  [18:30]
<neg> me neither, so I will buy one then so we have if needed  [18:31]
<pinchartl> I propose adjourning the meeting. does anyone second ?  [18:32]
<neg> seconded  [18:33]
<pinchartl> thank you
<pinchartl> the meeting is adjourned, talk to you in Tōkyō for the ones who
	    will be there  [18:34]
<neg> thanks all
<morimoto> thanks
<kbingham> Cheers and Enjoy!  [18:35]
<morimoto> pinchartl: when you arrive to Jinbotyo station A4 exit, you can
	   email me by "kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com" or
	   "dr.mk.gemini@gmail.com"  [18:36]
<pinchartl> morimoto: I don't think I'll have an internet connection
<morimoto> Maybe it can be good lunch time :)
<morimoto> Oops, from Hotel ?
<pinchartl> I can probably send you an e-mail when I leave the hotel  [18:37]
<pinchartl> and call you when I get to the station
<pinchartl> I can also send a text message to Niklas
<pinchartl> or Geert or Wolfram
<morimoto> OK, sound nice !!
<morimoto> Have a nice trip you guys !!  [18:38]
<pinchartl> thank you
<morimoto> note that, unfortunately, Japan in rainy season now.
<neg> another Q, can I fit my US power plug into a JP socket physicly? (yes I
      know the voltages are different) the internet gives me different awnsers
								        [18:39]
<morimoto> I always using Japan plug on US without exchanger  [18:40]
<morimoto> I'm always using Japanese plug in US without exchanger
<neg> nice thx
<morimoto> OK, thanks you guys, I will quit  [18:42]