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diff --git a/wiki/Chat_log/20170524-mm-chatlog b/wiki/Chat_log/20170524-mm-chatlog new file mode 100644 index 0000000..a496e89 --- /dev/null +++ b/wiki/Chat_log/20170524-mm-chatlog @@ -0,0 +1,694 @@ +Multimedia-chat-meeting-2017-05-24 + +<pinchartl> hello [15:55] +<uli___> hi +<kbingham> Morning! [15:56] +<pinchartl> I see that everybody has provided status reports by e-mail, + excellent :-) [15:57] +<pinchartl> I know that Jacopo is awake [15:58] +<pinchartl> how about neg ? +<morimoto> Hi [15:59] +<jmondi> Hello there +<pinchartl> let's still wait a few minutes for Niklas [16:00] +<dammsan> hi guys [16:01] +<pinchartl> hopefully Niklas will join us soon [16:02] +<pinchartl> let's get started +<pinchartl> topics for today +<pinchartl> 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks +<pinchartl> 2. Additional tasks for Q2/2 +<pinchartl> 3. Meeting in Japan +<pinchartl> anything else ? [16:03] +<pinchartl> I'll take that as a no [16:04] +<pinchartl> Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks [16:05] +<pinchartl> let's see who posted his report last... +* uli___ hides +<pinchartl> Ulrich, you can start :-) +<uli___> so i copied the blanche board's serial-multiplex max9260 setup using + wires and breakout boards [16:06] +<uli___> and wrote a stub serdev driver to access it +<uli___> that works on the blanche board as well +<uli___> but that needed a little infrastructure (pin control) +<uli___> then i resent the gose video input series with updated dt bindings + [16:07] +<uli___> there are numerous variations of the adv7180 +<uli___> but we only care about whether they have 3 or 6 inputs +<pinchartl> yes, it's painful :-/ +<uli___> to i added two compat strings ("adv7180cp" and "adv7180st", iirc) +<uli___> to avoid bloat +<uli___> rob herring acked it [16:08] +<uli___> next thing to do is to probe around the chromebook board to look for + a uart or something else we can use to get debug output +<geertu> uli___: To which variant does the existing "adi,adv7180" correspond + to? +<uli___> "unknown", i suppose +<pinchartl> I'll review the DT bindings [16:09] +<pinchartl> (and the other patches) +<uli___> thank you [16:10] +<pinchartl> next in report order, neg +<pinchartl> who doesn't seem to be here +<pinchartl> I'll copy his e-mail report for now +<pinchartl> since last meeting +<pinchartl> - [PATCH v2 0/2] v4l2-async: add subnotifier registration for + subdevices +<pinchartl> - [PATCH v2 0/2] media: entity: add operation to help map DT + node to media pad +<pinchartl> - [PATCH v7 0/2] media: rcar-csi2: add Renesas R-Car MIPI + CSI-2 support +<pinchartl> - [PATCH v2 00/17] rcar-vin: fix issues with format and + capturing +<pinchartl> for the next two weeks: [16:11] +<pinchartl> * Post: +<pinchartl> - [PATCH v5 00/28] rcar-vin: Add Gen3 with media controller + support +<pinchartl> * Attend OSS Japan and PeriPeri +<pinchartl> next [16:12] +<pinchartl> jmondi: [16:13] +<pinchartl> your turn +<jmondi> here I am +<jmondi> let me paste the email content a bit +<jmondi> since last meeting +<jmondi> - Migo-R machine init with new CEU driver: got both sensor probing + [16:14] +<jmondi> - Sensor drivers (ov772x and tw9910) removed soc_camera dependencies +<jmondi> - add support for multiple sub-devices to CEU driver +<jmondi> - started playing with notifiers on max9268 driver and 8-ch camera + setup [16:15] +<jmondi> for the next two weeks +<jmondi> - max9682 startup sequence +<jmondi> - split max9268 and max9271 drivers +<jmondi> - add support for OF to CEU driver and use camera module on GR-Peach + board [16:16] +<pinchartl> I'll add "- OSS Japan and multimedia meeting" to that list +<jmondi> ah, right! +<jmondi> I forgot I had to take a plane on Friday +<jmondi> :) +<jmondi> do we need to add accepted bug fixes to status report? [16:17] +<pinchartl> no +<jmondi> ok, then --eot-- +<pinchartl> Morimoto-san's script to pick them up works :-) +<jmondi> I knew it was like that for Core/IO, just wanted to make sure for mm + is the same... [16:18] +<neg> sorry for beeing late +<morimoto> jmondi: my script is collecting bugfix patch from our related ML +<pinchartl> hi Niklas +<jmondi> morimoto: great! [16:19] +<morimoto> jmondi: Thanks anyway +<pinchartl> next in report order, kbingham +<kbingham> I've been mostly working on ADV748x related tasks, and trying to + get it's dependencies sorted. [16:20] +<kbingham> With that - I have done 4 spins of the V4L2 async matching updates, + which I think are now ready and are going through Sakari's branches + I believe. +<kbingham> I need to discuss with Niklas what we will do about the link issues + that are not created in RVin +<kbingham> but I think for now - just using static immutable links in the ADV + is fine. [16:21] +<kbingham> I have also done two spins of the ADV748x driver itself with plenty + of review comments from both Laurent and Sakari which I have been + working through. +<kbingham> The last 'big tasks' for me before another repost is to try to get + regmap in place. +<kbingham> I have also done some review and maintenance work for the VSP1-DU + patches, and I have also got my remote access set up so I can boot + the Salvator-X without a wire in my laptop - This makes me happy :) +<kbingham> - Next up for me is of course the Japan trip, I leave for London + on Thursday evening, and fly out Friday morning. And hopefully one + or two final posts of the ADV748x [16:22] +<kbingham> -- eot -- +<morimoto> ? kbingham: do you come to japan ? [16:23] +<kbingham> morimoto: I am yes :) +<kbingham> morimoto: I need you to teach me how to speak Japanese in the next + 3 days :) +<morimoto> OK, so, total 5 periperi from Europe ? +<morimoto> Laurent/Niklas/Marek/Jacopo/Kieran [16:24] +<pinchartl> morimoto: correct +<morimoto> OK, thanks +<dammsan> will marek join the m/m meeting? +<pinchartl> dammsan: no, he will land on Tuesday evening I believe [16:25] +<dammsan> ok, so monday lunch how many people? =) +<dammsan> 6 from our side? +<jmondi> o/ +<morimoto> o/ +<pinchartl> dammsan: 4 European people, you and Morimoto-san, and whoever else + Renesas sends to spy on our meeting :-) [16:26] +<dammsan> gotcha, thanks +<pinchartl> next to go in report order, Morimoto-san +<morimoto> gotcha +<morimoto> A) What have I done since last time +<morimoto> - OF-graph for ALSA SoC was accepted ! I posted HDMI sound + patch-set to ML +<morimoto> - 24bit sound issue which was found by BSP team was solved. It was + data format issue on HW. I posted this patch to ML, and accepted. +<morimoto> - AGL sound issue which was found by BSP team was solved. It was + PulseAudio, and Audio-DMAC bugfix was needed. I posted patches. + [16:27] +<morimoto> - We could receive from Laurent about "DU and GPU synchronization + through fences". pinchartl: nThank you about that ! +<morimoto> About peripelist diff, please check my mail +<morimoto> B) What I plan to do till next time +<morimoto> - continue to HDMI sound +<morimoto> - BSP team nurse for ADSP +<morimoto> C) Problems I have currently +<morimoto> No, sir +<morimoto> but, I want to know/get "8ch camera prototype" patch (or something) + somehow +<morimoto> --EOT-- [16:28] +<pinchartl> you're welcome for the DU and GPU synchronization. sorry about the + delay, I had to check that with DRM developers +<morimoto> OK, no problem. thank [16:29] +<morimoto> s/thank/thans/ +<pinchartl> regarding the 8-channels camera prototype +<pinchartl> http://elinux.org/R-Car/Tests:rcar-vin#Multi-channel_CSI-2_tests +<pinchartl> there's a link to the code +<pinchartl> git://linuxtv.org/pinchartl/media.git vin-gmsl-20170515 +<morimoto> gr8 +<morimoto> thanks +<morimoto> About DMA bugfix patch, I think it is pinchartl: territory [16:31] +<pinchartl> isn't it a core team problem ? ;-) +<pinchartl> I will have a look +<morimoto> I can show you my cute smile if someone can review :) [16:32] +<pinchartl> :-) +<pinchartl> now I realize that, once again, I forgot to put Magnus first +<pinchartl> dammsan: be careful, the third time you get under the radar, you + earn the sneaky scoundrel badge :-) +<pinchartl> and we seem to have lost Magnus [16:33] +<morimoto> :) +<pinchartl> in the meantime, I'll go with my report (privilege of going last + as the team leader :-D) [16:34] +<pinchartl> since last meeting +<pinchartl> - Looked into the DU fence issue reported by the BSP team +<pinchartl> The BSP team couldn't get fences working without additional (and + complex) patches to the DU driver. This came from the fact that + they wanted to use implicit fences, while DRM has switched to an + explicit fences model. Only explicit fences are implemented in the + DRM core. The GPU driver will need to switch to explicit fences + too. +<pinchartl> - Cache (DMA ATTR SKIP CPU) performance issue with VSP2 +<pinchartl> Fixed in "[PATCH v2 0/5] R-Car DU: Fix IOMMU operation when + connected to VSP". +<pinchartl> - Handled administrative tasks (additional tasks negotiation, + Tokyo meeting preparation) [16:35] +<pinchartl> - Started looking into H3 ES2.0 display support +<pinchartl> for the next two weeks [16:36] +<pinchartl> - H3 ES2.0 DU support +<pinchartl> - OSS Japan and multimedia meeting +<pinchartl> - Vacation in Japan (from June the 4th to June the 17th) +<pinchartl> ah, I forgot to mention, I've also managed to get my Salvator-X + booting in my board farm, with power controlled through a + beaglebone black and a custom PCB to drive the external power + signal [16:37] +<dammsan> good!! +<pinchartl> now I need to setup remote access to the management machine +<pinchartl> (which at the moment is unfortunately a power-consuming PC, but I + hope to change that at some point) [16:38] +<pinchartl> that's it for me +<pinchartl> dammsan: anything to report ? +<pinchartl> seems we've lost Magnus again [16:40] +<dammsan> not much except that i intend to review your IPMMU DU/VSP/FCP series +<pinchartl> ok +<dammsan> also +<kbingham> I'll ping Mauro to get an ack on those +<dammsan> i would like to know which boards i should bring to the meeting + space +<pinchartl> kbingham: you can ping him on IRC. tell him you're leaving for + Japan tomorrow and that you'd like to know whether he's OK before + that [16:41] +<pinchartl> dammsan: that will be part of the third topic :-) +<dammsan> excellent!! +<pinchartl> Topic 2. Additional tasks for the second batch of Q2 +<kbingham> pinchartl: Yes, the on IRC bit was the part I meant - the Japan + trip is a good idea for a push :) +<pinchartl> has everybody received their SoW for Q2/2 ? [16:42] +<uli___> not me +<dammsan> right, that's yet to be finalized [16:43] +<dammsan> uli___: lets do that today so we can wrap it up at renesas office + tomorrow +<neg> pinchartl: I have received a SoW for TB/BT for rcar-vin, thanks for + writing that upp :-) +<pinchartl> neg: you're welcome +<uli___> dammsan: ok +<dammsan> neg: we should discuss papers soon, prefer to do it before japan? +<jmondi> pinchartl: beside our chat, not yet in a 'formal' document [16:44] +<neg> dammsan: whatever is convinient for you +<pinchartl> jmondi: I don't think you need a formal document for Q2 +<pinchartl> you're still covered by a base contract only until end of Q2 as + far as I understand [16:45] +<pinchartl> additional tasks fo Q3 will be discussed in Japan. uli___, we will + of course keep you involved in the process, likely through e-mail + due to the time zone difference +<pinchartl> uli___: if you have proposals for tasks you'd like to work on in + Q3, please send me an e-mail before Monday +<jmondi> pinchartl: then I'm fine with my base contract ending the 30th June +<dammsan> neg: will you show up at the meeting space on sunday night? [16:46] +<dammsan> if so we can finalise discussions there +<dammsan> if not then later in the week is fine too [16:47] +<pinchartl> any other comment regarding additional tasks ? +<neg> dammsan: that was my intention but then I saw the travel description :-) + I will look at a map and make sure I can get ther and if so yes I will + show up +<dammsan> neg: gotcha [16:48] +<neg> dammsan: so if I get lost handeling it on Monday is also fine with me if + it works for you +<dammsan> sure no worries [16:49] +<pinchartl> this leads us to the next topic +<pinchartl> Topic 3. OSS Japan trip +<pinchartl> Tokyo is in less than a week ! are you all excited ? :-D +<dammsan> \o/ [16:50] +<kbingham> \o/ :D [16:51] +<pinchartl> \o/ +<neg> \o/ [16:52] +<pinchartl> ahem... +<pinchartl> :-) +<pinchartl> so +<pinchartl> we have a meeting space booked from the 28th (3pm) to the 31st +<kbingham> Did the meeting place address get posted ? +<pinchartl> yes, to periperi [16:53] +<pinchartl> 2 Chome-4-3 Senzoku, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0031, Japan +<pinchartl> kbingham: welcome to your first Japanese lesson, street addresses + :-) +<kbingham> Thanks - I'll see if google-nav can get me there :) +<dammsan> since it is taito-ku i guess it is in between a pachinko place and a + soap land [16:54] +<kbingham> My arrival 'capsule' is in Taito - so I'll be nearby +<pinchartl> (:-D +<dammsan> cool +<pinchartl> if I'm not mistaken, the address is pronounced "ni Chome shi san + Senzoku, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to [16:55] +<pinchartl> that can be useful in a taxi +<dammsan> so far it seems like pinchartl wants to use the place for sleeping +<morimoto> dammsan: can you tell me meeting place name again ? +<morimoto> so-so-kan ? +<kbingham> 2 km away ... - 26 minute walk. +<pinchartl> morimoto: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/17013981 +<dammsan> yuyutei +<kbingham> dammsan: I think if I'm able to adjust my conference hotel booking + I would like to too . +<dammsan> ok cool +<pinchartl> I haven't been able to adjust my Hilton booking yet [16:56] +<pinchartl> I tried doing it online but the only option was to cancel and + rebook +<pinchartl> which is more expensive now, for two night less than the original + booking +<pinchartl> I contacted them by e-mail but they never replied [16:57] +<morimoto> dammsan: pinchartl: thanks +<neg> yes that is why I have not alterd my Hilton booking... :-) If you figure + out how to change it let me know +<pinchartl> if I can't I guess I'll have a choice between two rooms :-) +<pinchartl> which could actually be convenient, as I'll land early in the + morning [16:58] +<jmondi> I've been able to get the last rooms at LF discount price there.. not + going to cancel and lose it :) +<dammsan> we have bed space for 5 people in 3 rooms +<pinchartl> dammsan: will you stay there ? +<dammsan> yeah i might do so +<dammsan> i heard morimoto-san might as well +<dammsan> in case we're not utilizing it fully anyway +<dammsan> so lunch with jinzai on monday [16:59] +<dammsan> we are 6 ppl +<dammsan> when shall we ask to meet them at the jinzai office? [17:00] +<dammsan> noon? +<pinchartl> first thing first +<dammsan> sure =) +<pinchartl> I propose starting the meeting at 9:00am +<dammsan> (thought i lost you =) +<neg> if the house is not fully used I might want to also stay there to be + able to hangout with you guys. But if the beds are needed I'm just as + fine making my way to the Hilton :-) +<pinchartl> to have time to discuss before meeting with Jinzai +<pinchartl> for those who are interested, we could meet earlier to have + breakfast [17:01] +<pinchartl> I'm sure we can find something nearby +<jmondi> that's for Monday morning, right? [17:02] +<pinchartl> yes +<dammsan> my only concern is rush hour train from odaiba +<pinchartl> good point +<jmondi> but you'll be there from Sunday +<pinchartl> dammsan: what do you recommend ? +<dammsan> that people staying at the meeting space go out for breakfast +<dammsan> and people from hilton take a taxi +<dammsan> and join when they arrive [17:03] +<pinchartl> sounds good to me +<pinchartl> should we all have dinner together on Sunday evening ? +<dammsan> it might take between 20 and 40 minutes to get to the meeting space, + maybe even 1h worst case +<jmondi> lovely! [17:04] +<dammsan> that sounds nice +<jmondi> Sunday dinner is fine! +<pinchartl> how about having dinner somewhere around the house ? +<pinchartl> so we can meet there first, people who stay there can drop their + luggage, and we can all go to dinner +<dammsan> yeah sure, i have no idea where but we can figure out something +<pinchartl> I'm sure there will be an interesting dinner place within a + reasonable distance from the hosue [17:05] +<pinchartl> should we meet there at 18:00 ? +<dammsan> asakusa will have something most likely +<dammsan> if so i'll ask to check-in at 17:00 [17:06] +<dammsan> and wait for your guys there +<dammsan> morimoto: shall we go to the house together on sunday? +<morimoto> sure +<dammsan> i'll bring my sleeping bag in case everyone will stay at the place + [17:07] +<pinchartl> then lunch with Jinso at 12:00 on Monday seems good to me +<jmondi> neg: will you leave from Odaiba on Sunday afternoon? Should we test + our ability to get there by public transportations? +<dammsan> pinchartl: meeting at jinzai office at 12:00 and let jinzai decide + timing for lunch is ok? inayoshi-san said a brief meeting only + [17:08] +<pinchartl> dammsan: yes, sure +<dammsan> excellent, will let them know right away [17:09] +<neg> jmondi: seems like a good plan +<pinchartl> I assume people will be interested in dinner on Monday evening +<pinchartl> going back to the hotel before dinner for those staying at the + Hilton might not be very convenient +<pinchartl> so should we wrap up not too late, let's say 18:30, and then head + to dinner ? [17:10] +<kbingham> I presume taxis/uber are easy in Tokyo? +*** horms (~horms@217.111.208.18) has quit: Ping timeout: 255 seconds +<kbingham> but yes - 18:30 for dinner sounds reasonable [17:11] +<pinchartl> kbingham: there are taxis all over the place. the hardest part is + to communicate your destination address :-) +<morimoto> kbingham: uber is not yet allowed in Japan +<kbingham> pinchartl: Thus the benefit of Uber :) +<kbingham> morimoto: Oh - then that's out ! +<neg> kbingham: also data is super expensive (at least for my .se phone) +<pinchartl> as a general note, make sure you have cash with you, credit cards + are not accepted everywhere +<pinchartl> you probably want a local SIM card [17:12] +<jmondi> something I would like to ask: do you recommend buying a sim card? +<jmondi> ah yes +<kbingham> ^ - When travelling I always get a local card :) +<pinchartl> you can buy one at the airport +<pinchartl> i paid ¥5500 for a 1GB SIM card last year) +<pinchartl> it might be possible to get cheaper ones in town [17:13] +<pinchartl> if you can get a SIM card that also allows voice, it can be useful + to coordinate +<morimoto> (I'm very flexible, if people want to stay at meeting room, I can + go back to my house) [17:14] +<pinchartl> but unless this has changed recently, don't bother with text + messages, they don't work across different operators +<pinchartl> so here's the tentative schedule +<uli___> ftr, last time i bought a sim card in japan, it would not work with + my dual-sim nokia phone +<pinchartl> Sunday 18:00: Meeting at the house, then heading out for dinner +<pinchartl> Monday 08:15: Breakfast for those staying at the house +<pinchartl> Monday 09:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting (we will wait + for everybody to arrive, rush hour is a valid excuse for being + late, but please try to not arrive too late) +<pinchartl> Monday 12:00: Visit to the Jinso office and lunch with them +<pinchartl> Monday 14:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting +<pinchartl> Tuesday 08:15: Breakfast for those staying at the house +<pinchartl> Tuesday 09:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting +<pinchartl> Monday 18:30: Dinner (TBD) +<pinchartl> Tuesday 12:00: Lunch (TBD) +<pinchartl> Tuesday 14:00: Multimedia group face-to-face meeting +<pinchartl> Tuesday 18:30: Dinner (TBD) +<pinchartl> we will try to minimize the time spent on discussions [17:15] +<pinchartl> so as soon as we finish covering all topics +<pinchartl> we'll switch to hacking mode +<pinchartl> Morimoto-san and Magnus can bring us boards, but they need to know + what we need [17:16] +<pinchartl> power supply should be provided too +<pinchartl> but please all bring the cables you need +<pinchartl> this includes ethernet and USB cables [17:17] +<pinchartl> and whatever else you need for your work +<kbingham> Will we have wifi at the house? +<pinchartl> (likely HDMI for instance) +<pinchartl> kbingham: according to airbnb, yes +<pinchartl> the quality of the network is unknown +<pinchartl> worst case we'll use our phones as access points I assume [17:18] +<morimoto> I can bring my WiMAX if you want +<pinchartl> morimoto: that would be very nice, just in case the wifi doesn't + work well +<morimoto> OK, will do> +<dammsan> good idea [17:19] +<pinchartl> what hardware do you all need ? +<pinchartl> we will work on the multi-camera setup +<pinchartl> dammsan: is it feasible to bring that ? +<kbingham> A video source ... +<neg> I have two thingns I like to hack on 1. Integrate my VIN+CSI-2 with + kbingham ADV7482 2. Take the 8-ch channel prototype for a real world + spin and indentify more "problem" areas. So for that I assume a + Salvator-X board and the 8-ch daughterboard is HW I would like dammsan + and morimoto to bring :-) [17:20] +<dammsan> good question +<dammsan> i guess no one else is bringing any hardware? +<morimoto> Unfortunately, bought 8ch camera are not yet arrive. So we have + Magnus's remote 8ch only +<jmondi> would like to see 8chan setup as well, and will bring a GR-Peach with + camera board and modules in case I have some time to work on it +<dammsan> ok i see +<pinchartl> dammsan: remote access is an option, but we might need to play + with the power supply jumper for the second max9286, which isn't + convenient if we can't access the board physically [17:21] +<dammsan> i can bring the 8-ch setup +<dammsan> right +<pinchartl> dammsan: thank you +<dammsan> ok, 8-ch setup, check +<pinchartl> dammsan: I'll need the Salvator-X H3 ES2.0 board +<jmondi> dammsan: pinchartl: Migo-R? Is it still a thing? [17:22] +<dammsan> ok, will bring +<morimoto> Now, we received XS !! I can bring it to meeting room +<pinchartl> morimoto: wow cool ! +<dammsan> morimoto: that might help but we have no board support code +<morimoto> Yes, that is issue :) +<dammsan> jmondi: is physical access heping? [17:23] +<pinchartl> dammsan: I'd still like to try the Salvator-XS if time permits +<jmondi> actually while there there should be less lag than from Europe, so + not that much I guess +<pinchartl> morimoto: so if you could bring it, it would be nice +<jmondi> dammsan: ^ +<dammsan> jmondi: i can bring it but i want to avoid removal/reinstall from + remove access rack unless it is really necessary [17:24] +<pinchartl> neg: kbingham: what do you use to the VIN on Salvator-X as HDMI + and analog sources ? +<jmondi> dammsan: no worries +<kbingham> pinchartl: I have an Amazon Fire stick for the HDMI in - and a DVD + player for the CVBS in. [17:25] +<kbingham> Something to replicate those video sources would be useful. +<pinchartl> kbingham: can you bring the amazon fire ? +<morimoto> pinchartl: OK will do +<neg> pinchartl: SNES and XBOX, but I bought a HDMI to CVBS adapter I'm + planing to bring and hoping that will work as a video source from my + laptop +<dammsan> jmondi: there is a photo of the migo-r here: [17:26] +<dammsan> + https://events.linuxfoundation.org/images/stories/slides/jls09/jls09_damm.pdf +<kbingham> pinchartl: I can ... I was going to leave it hooked on my board at + home ... but I could just leave the DVD player switched on instead. + [17:27] +<pinchartl> dammsan: would it be possible for you to bring an HDMI or VGA + screen ? +<neg> or maybe the hackday must include a trip to akihabara to buy snes clone + to act as input source :-) +<pinchartl> neg: hehe :-) +<dammsan> go go go super potato +<pinchartl> kbingham: another option is to use a laptop output as an HDMI + source, but the ADV7482 has no EDID support yet as far as I know, + so I'm not sure whether that would work +<dammsan> maybe morimoto-san can bring the LED projector? +<pinchartl> neg: kbingham: any comment on that ? +<dammsan> (my projector that is in the renesas office) [17:28] +<pinchartl> dammsan: a projector is a good idea +<kbingham> pinchartl: No - there is no EDID support yet - unless we add it + while we're there :) +<pinchartl> does it have VGA, HDMI or both ? +<dammsan> that might serve well as HDMI output +<dammsan> both i think +<kbingham> pinchartl: I started to look at that - but have postponed as it + didn't seem a priority for upstreaming the driver. +<pinchartl> kbingham: that would be nice but it's not very urgent, although + it's showing to be a partial blocker (or at least a nuisance) +<dammsan> morimoto: can you check projector ports please? +<pinchartl> kbingham: now you know what you'll do in the plane ;-) +<neg> pinchartl: I agree that EDID support is a issue and a laptop HDMI wont + work (at least not last time I tried) but I have high hopes on my + HDMI-to-CVBS dongle could work :-) [17:29] +<dammsan> (if you are in the renesas office) +<pinchartl> neg: yes, CVBS shouldn't care about EDID :-) +<kbingham> pinchartl: I'll need the business class upgrade for the flying + office then :) - I'll expense that you you yes ? :D +<pinchartl> kbingham: you don't have a private jet ? :-) +<kbingham> pinchartl: It's under repair currently [17:30] +<pinchartl> :-) +<pinchartl> so I think hardware access is sorted out [17:31] +<pinchartl> to summarize +<neg> also please bring local power cabe slitters :-) +<pinchartl> kbingham: Amazon Fire TV stick (HDMI source for VIN testing) +<pinchartl> dammsan: Salvator-X H3 ES1.1 + Multi-camera expansion board + 8 + cameras, Salvator-X H3 ES2.0 [17:32] +<pinchartl> morimoto: LED projector, Salvator-XS +<pinchartl> neg: HDMI to CVBS converter (CVBS source for VIN testing) +<pinchartl> everybody: cables +<pinchartl> a power strip would be useful, yes [17:33] +<pinchartl> Magnus or Morimoro-san, could you bring one ? +<morimoto> dammsan: it seems we lost your projector [17:34] +<pinchartl> I'll bring one with euro plugs so Jacopo, Niklas and I won't need + separate power adapters +<morimoto> I can't find it here (= Renesas office) +<jmondi> pinchartl: thanks +<dammsan> morimoto: i saw komatsu-san using it some week ago +<morimoto> OK, will check +<dammsan> (maybe he was busy planning on how not to give us salvator-xs boards + early) [17:35] +<pinchartl> then, moving on with the schedule, Wednesday-Friday will be + conference time. we can plan dinners, but I'm sure lots of + unexpected plan disruptions will occur, so it might not be worth + it starting with that now [17:36] +<pinchartl> for Saturday +<pinchartl> I propose visiting Kamakura or Hakone +<morimoto> OK, projector has HDMI in, RGB in, VIDEO in, Audio in +<pinchartl> (assuming the weather will permit) +<pinchartl> morimoto: by RGB, do you mean VGA ? [17:37] +<morimoto> Yes +<pinchartl> morimoto: perfect ! +<dammsan> morimoto: thanks for checking, can you bring it? +<pinchartl> Morimoto-san and Magnus, would you be interested in joining us for + a day trip to Kamakura or Hakone on Saturday the 3rd ? +<morimoto> Do you need HDMI cable ? [17:38] +<pinchartl> (or would you recommend avoiding those places ? :-)) +<pinchartl> morimoto: I'll bring a VGA and an HDMI cable, but if there are + cables with the projector please take them, just in case +<morimoto> OK +<dammsan> pinchartl: i think i need one free day this weekend, so i'll pass + this time [17:39] +<morimoto> In 3rd, I need to go to dentist. But I can adjust. +<morimoto> Then, I need to cancel it +<dammsan> oh, 3rd +<dammsan> that sounds nice +<dammsan> lets go together +<pinchartl> :-) +<pinchartl> morimoto: if you're not available it's fine, the trip is not + mandatory :-) +<pinchartl> but we would certainly be happy if you could join [17:40] +<pinchartl> (however, please not that if the weather is really bad we might + need to change the plan) +<morimoto> OK, let's go together :) +<pinchartl> would you recommend Kamakura or Hakone ? +<morimoto> (I will cancel dentist) +<pinchartl> Kamakura is a bit closer, one hour away by regular train +<pinchartl> while Hakone is also one hour away, but by Shinkansen [17:41] +<pinchartl> so if we book at the last minute to check the weather, the + Shinkansen might be full +<dammsan> both are nice i think +<pinchartl> (but at least we have a backup plan) +<morimoto> Kamakura has big Buddha. Hakone is On-sen place +<pinchartl> ok, I'll let you all check both places, and we'll decide later +<dammsan> shonan-enoshima is also nice +<morimoto> https://www.city.kamakura.kanagawa.jp/visitkamakura/en/index.html +<dammsan> it is in the same direction +<dammsan> sort of a beach place [17:42] +<morimoto> https://www.hakone.or.jp/en/ +<pinchartl> dammsan: thanks, I've added that to the list of proposals [17:43] +<neg> on-sen and beach place, sounds like I shuld pack swiming gear :-) +<morimoto> neg: you can't use swiming gear at on-sen :) [17:44] +<jmondi> both seems very nice! not sure what on-sen stands for :) +<pinchartl> neg: good point, please all pack a swimming suit in case we go to + the beach :-) +<pinchartl> jmondi: look it up or have the surprise ;-) +<jmondi> I'll go for the surprise! [17:45] +<morimoto> http://www.hakone-english.com/ +<pinchartl> dammsan: I had failed to see that Shonan-Enoshima is actually in + Kamakura :-) +<dammsan> it is also possible to go for an evening onsen visit from the + meeting space if you'd like +<dammsan> we can take a cab to tokyo dome area [17:46] +<dammsan> but anyway +<dammsan> people with tattoos might have a hard time getting accepted +<dammsan> but apart from that anything should be fine +<pinchartl> dammsan: small tattoos can be covered with a band-aid, right ? + [17:47] +<dammsan> yeah probably +<jmondi> dammsan: really? +<dammsan> yeah +<dammsan> and "antisocial persons" are also not usually welcome [17:48] +<dammsan> that would be me i guess =) +<jmondi> I might have problems then +<jmondi> ah crap, 2 problems then +<dammsan> hehe +<jmondi> how do they find out if you're an antisocial one? +<pinchartl> jmondi: tattoos are associated with the Yakuza and antisocial + behaviour in Japan [17:49] +<dammsan> i guess they look you up on facebook +<dammsan> just kidding +<dammsan> =) +<jmondi> and if you're not on faebook, you're anti-social-network? Ok, I'll + stop [17:50] +<pinchartl> jmondi: + http://www.kashiwaya.org/e/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/tattoo_cover.jpg +<neg> if they did, I'd say it's the first valid reason I heard to get a + facebook account :-) +<dammsan> =) +<dammsan> i'd say it is probably closer to "fax-book" than face book given how + old the rules are [17:51] +<jmondi> pinchartl: no way :) +<pinchartl> jmondi: :-) +<pinchartl> anyway, I think that's it for today's meeting [17:52] +<pinchartl> does anyone have another topic to discuss ? +<morimoto> 2nd plan ? http://www.senso-ji.jp/ +<morimoto> http://www.meijijingu.or.jp/english/index.html [17:53] +<neg> One short question, is anyone besides jmondi interessted in a joint + travel from the Hilton to the House on Sunday? +<pinchartl> neg: I might, if I can't change my Hilton booking +<pinchartl> morimoto: do you mean on June the 2nd ? +<morimoto> http://daiba.ooedoonsen.jp/en/ [17:54] +<morimoto> pinchartl: no no. +<kbingham> neg: Likewise here - although [17:55] +<neg> pinchartl: Ok I send the same question to periperi and if you wish to + join please respond to that :-) +<kbingham> I think I can easily cancel my sunday night at the hilton as it was + booked separately. +<dammsan> kbingham: nice to see that you've had your thinking cap on!! =) +<pinchartl> morimoto: ah, a backup plan then :-) +<morimoto> pinchartl: yes +<neg> pinchartl: also if you managed to find a way to alter your Hilton + booking please let me know since I failed in this endevor [17:56] +<pinchartl> neg: sure +<pinchartl> I'll land on Sunday morning [17:57] +<dammsan> if you are unsure where to find more interesting place to spend your + time on than odaiba, feel free to have a look at narita city +<pinchartl> so I'll be looking for company for the day +<pinchartl> but let's discuss that separately +<kbingham> I would suggest we share phone numbers or some contact details for + when we are in Japan, but I guess we might all end up with a new + temporary number on arrival ? +<pinchartl> this brings us to the next topics +<jmondi> I guess so +<pinchartl> s/topics/topic/ +<pinchartl> Topic 4. Next meeting +<pinchartl> The next meeting will be held face to face next week in Tōkyō, see + you there ! +<pinchartl> uli___: thanks for the chromebook pictures [17:58] +<uli___> welcome +<pinchartl> I propose adjourning this meeting +<pinchartl> does anyone second ? +<kbingham> Aye [17:59] +<jmondi> yup +<neg> second +<dammsan> yeah +<pinchartl> meeting adjourned +<pinchartl> thank you all for attending +<neg> thanks all, have a nice day and see (most of) you soon [18:00] +<kbingham> :) Yes - Looking forward to it +<pinchartl> uli___: there's so many unsoldered components [18:01] +<uli___> ? +<uli___> what are you referring to? +<pinchartl> the chromebook +<uli___> of course, but what components? +<pinchartl> not one in particular [18:02] +<pinchartl> I'm also puzzled by the component outlines on the silk screen that + just encompass plain areas of copper +<uli___> ah, you mean the pads with nothing on them +<pinchartl> for the unsoldered components, yes [18:03] +*** horms (~horms@217.111.208.18) has joined channel #periperi [18:04] +<neg> I just though of one more Japan related question, if I print a address + such as '2 Chome-4-3 Senzoku, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0031, Japan' on a + piece of paper is it good enugh to hand to a taxi driver and expect to + arrive at the correct location? [18:06] +<pinchartl> neg: try to print it in Japanese [18:07] +<pinchartl> or read it out with your best Japanese accent :-) +<jmondi> neg good question! +*** horms (~horms@217.111.208.18) has quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:09] +<neg> ok thanks [18:11] +<morimoto> neg: Maybe OK I think [18:13] +<morimoto> but you can ask to driver before ride +<morimoto> If you can bring Map, it is best [18:14] |