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+2016-09-27 Renesas Core Group Chat Invitation
+
+Time: Tuesday, September 27, 17h00-18h30 JST / 10h00-11h30 CEST
+Location: #periperi @ chat.freenode.net
+
+Agenda:
+1. Status updates
+2. PFC and CPG codes of R-Car H3 ES2.0.
+3. R-Car hwspinlock driver
+
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+Topic 1. Status updates
+
+ A) What have I done since last time
+
+ Geert:
+ - Resumed SoC identification and ESx.y handling
+ Khiem:
+ - Nothing yet
+ Still struggle to solve issue of git-send-emails via company proxy.
+ Magnus:
+ - Updated boot loader, IPMMU and audio hacking, accidentally boot tested
+ IPMMU and EtherAVB with new boot loader. Updated IPMMU patches.
+ Morimoto:
+ - Basically no Core task.
+ - Checking V3 patch permission.
+ - Checking about RZ/G ID
+ Niklas:
+ - Solved my issue for PFC drive strength on H3 and posted the patches
+ Ulrich:
+ - Submitted SYS-DMAC enablement for M3-W, plus I2C and (H)SCIF to
+ actually have something to enable it for...
+
+
+ B) What I plan to do till next time
+
+ Geert:
+ - Review Niklas' drive strength patches
+ - Continue RST, MODEMR, ES-handling, ...
+ - 64-bit memory with M3-W Ethernet
+ Khiem:
+ - Complete CPUFreq (Z-clock change)
+ I will make sure the patches are available and send out during this weekend.
+ Magnus:
+ - Focus on upstreaming of IPMMU code.
+ Morimoto:
+ - Clarify V3 patch permission
+ - Clarify RZ/G ID
+ Niklas:
+ - Fix Sergei's minor comment on PFC and wait for more comments/Acks
+ - Post v2, if there is time start on PFC work for M3-W
+ Shimoda:
+ - Describe lossy infor into eLinux...
+ Simon:
+ - Verify Suspend-to-RAM on M3-W using 2.12 firmware
+
+
+ C) Problems I have currently
+
+ Magnus:
+ - Lack of time.
+ Morimoto:
+ - Berlin trip wrapping
+
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+Topic 2. PFC and CPG codes of R-Car H3 ES2.0.
+
+The BSP team asked me about PFC and CPG codes of R-Car H3 ES2.0.
+They would like to know the policy of upstream team until mid of October
+because they will start ES2.0 development from this timing.
+
+ - How to create the R-Car H3 ES2.0's PFC and CPG codes?
+ - Do we add the ES2.0 code to pfc-r8a7795.c and r8a7795-cpg-mssr.c?
+ Or, do we make new files for the ES2.0?
+ - Or, other ideas?
+
+ a. CPG/MSSR
+ - Add ES2.0 clocks to end of
+ include/dt-bindings/clock/r8a7795-cpg-mssr.h
+ - Use soc_device_match() to detect r8a7795 ES1.* and
+ - select r8a7795_es1 tables instead of r8a7795 (= latest) tables,
+ - OR modify r8a7795 tables (TBD).
+ b. PFC
+ - r8a7795 ES2.0 PFC is (almost) identical to r8a7796 PFC.
+ Can it be merged?
+ - Similar to CPG/MSSR:
+ - sh_pfc_soc_operations.init() uses soc_device_match() to detect
+ r8a7795 ES1.* and select r8a7795_es1 or r8a7795 tables
+ - Needs ordering change. Current ordering is:
+ 1. soc_bus_register is core_initcall
+ 2. sh_pfc_init is postcore_initcall
+ (drivers/pinctrl < drivers/soc)
+ 3. renesas_soc_init is postcore_initcall
+ (cannot be core_initcall because drivers/soc < drivers/base)
+
+ Note: Do we want to make ES1.x support configurable?
+ If yes, it may make sense to use separate source files.
+
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+Topic 3. R-car hwspinlock driver
+
+BSP team would like to do upstream about the hwspinlock driver for R-Car.
+The driver is already merged into the latest Gen3 BSP:
+https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/horms/renesas-bsp.git/commit/drivers/hwspinlock?h=rcar-3.3.2&id=22d88d4eddb5a0fec485e717a65f218275f6b26b
+
+I don't know the spec of this driver. But, they have concerns about the driver.
+ - The driver uses "core_initcall" to control PFC driver.
+ Is it acceptable in Upstream?
+ - This topic is not related to upstreaming, but the driver cannot handle the
+ CPG driver because this driver also need the CPG.
+
+Do you think we can upport this driver as well?
+Or, do we need an additional task for it anyway?
+
+I checked this BSP patch roughly, and the patch should have a DT doc.
+(commit e4d2c3213280a6985395970cbf26e7ef381dd1d5)
+
+ - The driver uses platform_driver_register() from a core_initcall().
+ As the CPG/MSSR driver uses subsys_initcall(), the hwspinlock driver
+ probe will be deferred.
+ - No current users of hwspin? What's the plan?
+ - Shimoda-san will ask the BSP team
+ - Used for synchronisation with CR7 core
+
+
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+Core-chat-meeting-2016-09-27
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+10:03 < geertu> Welcome to today's Core Group Chat!
+10:04 < geertu> Magnus is excused (Japanese > Core Work)
+10:04 < geertu> Khiem seems to be stuck in Outlook without IRC capability?
+10:05 * geertu sort -R members
+10:05 < geertu> Oops, first is Khiem
+10:05 < geertu> Next is Simon
+10:06 < horms> --- start ---
+10:06 < horms> A) What have I done since last time
+10:06 < horms> * No core tasks at this time
+10:06 < horms> B) What I plan to do till next time
+10:06 < horms> * Verify Suspend-to-RAM on M3-W using 2.12 firmware
+10:06 < horms> C) Problems I have currently
+10:06 < horms> * None
+10:06 < horms> --- end ---
+10:06 < geertu> Thanks Simon
+10:06 < geertu> Next is Morimoto-san
+10:06 < morimoto> Basically I have no Core task. About RZ/G series, it is mass production version of R-Car chip. The reason why it has different naming is business paper work reason (R-Car consortium, etc). So, basically, R-Car and RZ/G can have same ID, but I'm confirming about this.
+10:06 < morimoto> About "V3".
+10:06 < morimoto> H3/M3 are under AIS team's (= our main group) product chip. This means WE can control H3/M3. Now we already have "M3" on upstream, even though, M3 press release was not yet happen. But "V3" is not our (= AIS team) product chip. And V3 might not use Linux on it. Don't know detail at this point. So now, we don't know how we control it. Now Munakata-san is considering about it.
+10:06 < morimoto> --end--
+10:07 < geertu> Oops, forgot the agenda
+10:07 < geertu> Agenda:
+10:07 < geertu> 1. Status updates
+10:07 < geertu> 2. PFC and CPG codes of R-Car H3 ES2.0.
+10:07 < geertu> 3. R-Car hwspinlock driver
+10:07 < geertu> ;-)
+10:07 < geertu> Thanks, Morimoto-san
+10:08 < horms> thanks Moriomoto-san, can I ask what "same id" means?
+10:08 < geertu> Next is Ulrich
+10:08 < geertu> Same ID in PRR register
+10:08 < uli___> A) Submitted SYS-DMAC enablement for M3-W, plus I2C and (H)SCIF to
+10:08 < geertu> I.e. we cannot distinguish between RZ/G and R-Car Gen2 at runtime
+10:08 < uli___> actually have something to enable it for...
+10:08 < horms> thanks
+10:08 < uli___> B) Nothing so far.
+10:08 < uli___> C) None.
+10:09 < geertu> Thanks Ulrich
+10:09 < geertu> Next is Laurent
+10:09 < morimoto> horms: it means, form Product ID point of view, RZ/G and R-Car are same. (and maybe HW is same)
+10:09 < pinchartl> nothing for me, no core task
+10:09 < horms> 承知致します。
+10:09 -!- khiemnguyen [d2a0fca8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.210.160.252.168] has joined #periperi
+10:10 < geertu> Thanks Laurent
+10:10 < geertu> Welcome Khiem!
+10:10 < khiemnguyen> Hello all
+10:10 < geertu> khiem: We're into status updates.
+10:10 < geertu> Next is Khiem
+10:11 < khiemnguyen> ok
+10:11 < khiemnguyen> a) Nothing yet.
+10:11 < khiemnguyen> Still struggle to solve issue of git-send-emails via company proxy.
+10:11 < khiemnguyen> b) Complete CPUFreq (Z-clock change)
+10:11 < khiemnguyen> I will make sure the patches are available and send out during this weekend.
+10:11 < khiemnguyen> c) None.
+10:12 < geertu> Thanks Khiem
+10:12 < geertu> Next is Shimoda-san
+10:12 < shimoda> A) What have I done since last time:
+10:12 < shimoda> - Nothing for core group task.
+10:12 < shimoda> B) What I plan to do till next time:
+10:12 < shimoda> - describe lossy infor into eLinux...
+10:12 < shimoda> C) Problems I have currently:
+10:12 < shimoda> - Nothing for core group task.
+10:12 < shimoda> --- end ---
+10:13 < geertu> Thanks Shimoda-san
+10:13 < geertu> Next is Geert
+10:13 < geertu> A) - Resumed SoC identification and ESx.y handling
+10:13 < geertu> B) - Review Niklas' drive strength patches
+10:13 < geertu> - Continue RST, MODEMR, ES-handling, ...
+10:13 < geertu> - 64-bit memory with M3-W Ethernet
+10:13 < geertu> C) - Nothing
+10:13 < geertu> --- end ---
+10:14 < geertu> Next is Niklas
+10:14 < neg> a) Solved my issue for PFC drive strength on H3 and posted the patches
+10:14 < neg> b) Fix Sergis minor comment on PFC and wait for more comments/Acks post v2, if there is time start on PFC work for M3-W
+10:14 < neg> c) None
+10:14 < neg> --- end ---
+10:15 < geertu> Thanks Niklas
+10:15 < geertu> Topic 2. PFC and CPG codes of R-Car H3 ES2.0.
+10:15 < geertu> From Shimoda-san:
+10:15 < geertu> The BSP team asked me about PFC and CPG codes of R-Car H3 ES2.0.
+10:15 < geertu> They would like to know the policy of upstream team until mid of October
+10:15 < geertu> because they will start ES2.0 development from this timing.
+10:15 < geertu> - How to create the R-Car H3 ES2.0's PFC and CPG codes?
+10:15 < geertu> - Do we add the ES2.0 code to pfc-r8a7795.c and r8a7795-cpg-mssr.c?
+10:15 < geertu> Or, do we make new files for the ES2.0?
+10:15 < geertu> - Or, other ideas?
+10:15 < geertu> ---end---
+10:16 < geertu> I had already given this some thought
+10:16 < geertu> a. CPG/MSSR
+10:16 < geertu> - Add ES2.0 clocks to end of include/dt-bindings/clock/r8a7795-cpg-mssr.h
+10:16 < geertu> - Use soc_device_match() to detect r8a7795 ES1.* and
+10:16 < geertu> - select r8a7795_es1 tables instead of r8a7795 (= latest) tables,
+10:16 < geertu> - OR modify r8a7795 tables (TBD).
+10:16 < geertu> Does that make sense?
+10:17 < pinchartl> that sounds good to me
+10:17 < pinchartl> how big is the diff between ES1.* and ES2.0 when it comes to CPG ?
+10:18 < geertu> I haven't gone through all changes, but for CPG, I think it's just a few additional clocks
+10:18 < geertu> For MSTP, some modules changed their parent clocks
+10:18 < geertu> Other modules disappeared (e.g. VSP)
+10:19 -!- horms [~horms@217.111.208.18] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
+10:19 < geertu> For CPG, it may even become identical to r8a7796. But as the defines are different, we can't just reuse the table.
+10:20 < pinchartl> ok
+10:20 -!- horms [~horms@217.111.208.18] has joined #periperi
+10:21 < geertu> b. PFC
+10:21 < geertu> - r8a7795 ES2.0 PFC is (almost) identical to r8a7796 PFC.
+10:21 < geertu> Can it be merged?
+10:21 < geertu> - Similar to CPG/MSSR:
+10:21 < geertu> - sh_pfc_soc_operations.init() uses soc_device_match() to detect
+10:21 < geertu> r8a7795 ES1.* and select r8a7795_es1 or r8a7795 tables
+10:21 < geertu> - Needs ordering change. Current ordering is:
+10:21 < geertu> 1. soc_bus_register is core_initcall
+10:21 < geertu> 2. sh_pfc_init is postcore_initcall
+10:21 < geertu> (drivers/pinctrl < drivers/soc)
+10:21 < geertu> 3. renesas_soc_init is postcore_initcall
+10:21 < geertu> (cannot be core_initcall because drivers/soc < drivers/base)
+10:22 < geertu> Does that make sense?
+10:23 < pinchartl> what are the new initcalls you're proposing there ?
+10:23 < horms> Sorry, could you repost what came before b? I am suffering from post-brexit wifi trauma
+10:24 < morimoto> horms: I will send it by email, OK ?
+10:24 < horms> morimoto: I got it from geert, thanks
+10:24 < morimoto> OK
+10:25 < morimoto> Is it possible to exchange initcall order ? I got NAK from maintainer before...
+10:26 < geertu> As changing initcalls and order in drivers/Makefile is always very complicated, I'm thinking of making renesas_soc_init() a core_initcall anyway, and letting soc_device_register() initialize the soc_bus if that hasn't been done yet.
+10:27 < pinchartl> anything that touches initcall ordering seems hacky to me, but I'll let others complain this time :-)
+10:27 < geertu> If you just call soc_device_register() before soc_bus_register() has happened, it crashes with a nice NULL pointer dereference
+10:28 < geertu> Does it still sound reasonable?
+10:29 < pinchartl> I've seen worse :-)
+10:29 < geertu> One other thing: Do we want to make ES1.x support configurable?
+10:30 < geertu> If yes, it may make sense to use separate source files.
+10:30 < shimoda> geertu: BSP team wants to be single binary
+10:31 < morimoto> single binary, but support ES1.x and ES2.0. correct ?
+10:31 < shimoda> if separate source files, we can build a single binary to support both es1 and 2?
+10:31 < geertu> shimoda: of course
+10:31 < shimoda> morimoto: yes
+10:31 < horms> Single binary is a hard requirement from my pov :)
+10:31 < geertu> shimoda: I meant, do we want CONFIG_ARCH_R8A7795_ES1?
+10:31 < pinchartl> geertu: I believe our long term goal should be to remove it, so I'd like to see the code developed in a way that wouldn't make that too difficult. it doesn't need to be in seperate files for me though
+10:32 < geertu> pinchartl: I agree
+10:32 < pinchartl> and I'd actually like to consider the opposite of your question as well: do we want to remove CONFIG_ARCH_R8A7795 at some point ?
+10:32 < pinchartl> but that's another topic
+10:33 < horms> what would be the motivation for removing it?
+10:33 < geertu> pinchartl: You mean make it unconditional, hence enabling CONFIG_ARCH_RENESAS enables all Renesas arm64 SoCs?
+10:34 < pinchartl> geertu: correct
+10:34 < geertu> pinchartl: That's what the arm64 maintainers would like, right?
+10:34 < pinchartl> yes
+10:34 < horms> probably the current arrangment is partly due to historical reasons
+10:34 < horms> i wonder if there is an advantage to keeping the current arrangment
+10:34 < pinchartl> I'm not advocating for that, but I believe we should at least consider the option
+10:35 < horms> e.g. to allow not carring so many pfc tables in the kernel binary if desired
+10:35 < geertu> So your kernel will always include full PFC tables for r8a7795_es1, r8a7795, r8a7796, r8a7797 (I predict that'll be the name of V3M ;-)?
+10:35 < pinchartl> kernel bloat is my concern too
+10:38 < geertu> OK, let's see later
+10:39 < geertu> shimoda: Are H3 ES2.0 boards already available?
+10:39 < shimoda> shimoda: not yet, perhaps end of this year or ealry next year
+10:40 < morimoto> It will goes to Magnus's remote machine.
+10:40 < geertu> shimoda: You said the BSP team will start working on it Oct/M
+10:40 < morimoto> Your available board will be next Feb or later ?
+10:40 < geertu> So by then we should have something basic ready? But we can't test it?
+10:41 < shimoda> geertu: yes. they will start it without actual board :)
+10:41 < morimoto> Renesas magic!
+10:42 < horms> Do they also code with their eyes shut?
+10:43 < geertu> touch typing
+10:43 < horms> of course
+10:45 < geertu> shimoda: Are you happy with the answer so far?
+10:46 < shimoda> geertu: about CPG, i understood it, but about PFC, i don't understand yet
+10:47 < shimoda> separate file or into the exist file?
+10:48 < shimoda> or we need more discusstion?
+10:48 < geertu> shimoda: As the PFC data is quite big, I think separate files are OK
+10:48 < geertu> Except if we can actually just use the r8a7796 tables. I have to check if that would cause ill effects.
+10:49 < shimoda> geertu: OK. I also think of that. So, I will fowared this infor to the BSP team. Thanks!
+10:49 < geertu> Thanks!
+10:49 < geertu> Topic 3. R-car hwspinlock driver
+10:49 < geertu> Also from Shimoda-san:
+10:50 < geertu> BSP team would like to do upstream about the hwspinlock driver for R-Car.
+10:50 < geertu> The driver is already merged into the latest Gen3 BSP:
+10:50 < geertu> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/horms/renesas-bsp.git/commit/drivers/hwspinlock?h=rcar-3.3.2&id=22d88d4eddb5a0fec485e717a65f218275f6b26b
+10:50 < geertu> I don't know the spec of this driver. But, they have concerns about the driver.
+10:50 < geertu> - The driver uses "core_initcall" to control PFC driver.
+10:50 < geertu> Is it acceptable in Upstream?
+10:50 < geertu> - This topic is not related to upstreaming, but the driver cannot handle the CPG driver
+10:50 < geertu> because this driver also need the CPG.
+10:50 < geertu> Do you think we can upport this driver as well?
+10:50 < geertu> Or, do we need an additional task for it anyway?
+10:50 < geertu> I checked this BSP patch roughly, and the patch should have a DT doc.
+10:50 < geertu> ---end---
+10:50 < geertu> DT doc is commit e4d2c3213280a6985395970cbf26e7ef381dd1d5
+10:50 < geertu> I have two comments here:
+10:50 < geertu> 1. The driver uses platform_driver_register() from a core_initcall().
+10:50 < geertu> As the CPG/MSSR driver uses subsys_initcall(), the hwspinlock driver probe will be deferred.
+10:51 < geertu> So it will probably be initialized earlier (without deferred probe), if it would use another initcall
+10:51 < geertu> it = hwspinlock driver
+10:52 < geertu> 2. There are no current users of hwspin in the BSP? What's the plan?
+10:53 < shimoda> geertu: about the plan, i don't know. So, I will ask the BSP team later
+10:54 < geertu> "the driver cannot handle the CPG driver because this driver also need the CPG/"
+10:54 < geertu> Does that mean they woild like to use hwspinlock in the CPG driver?
+10:55 < geertu> s/woild/would/
+10:56 -!- horms [~horms@217.111.208.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
+10:58 < shimoda> geertu: this means the hwspin driver calls pm_runtime APIs
+10:58 < shimoda> about the driver, I asked BSP team now
+10:59 < geertu> OK, thanks!
+10:59 < shimoda> this driver will be used if other CPU core (CR7) also runs
+10:59 < geertu> IC
+11:00 < geertu> Any other topics people want to discuss?
+11:00 < shimoda> but, a plan is not clear, they would like to skip upporting of this driver for now
+11:02 < geertu> Next meeting will be in Berlin
+11:02 < geertu> If you have topics for the meeting, please let me (and periperi) now!
+11:02 -!- horms [~horms@217.111.208.18] has joined #periperi
+11:02 < geertu> There are already some topics listed at https://osdr.renesas.com/projects/linux-kernel-development/wiki/Miniperi-2016-10
+11:05 < geertu> Nothing to add?
+11:06 < geertu> Thanks for joining, and have a nice continued day!