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+Multimedia-chat-meeting-2016-09-14
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+10:08 < pinchartl> topics for the day
+10:08 < pinchartl> Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks
+10:08 < pinchartl> Topic 2. Additional tasks for Q4 2016
+10:08 < pinchartl> Topic 3. Status update for Renesas on the multimedia todo list
+10:08 < pinchartl> anything else ?
+10:09 < pinchartl> maybe
+10:09 < neg> yes a quick question about what work to aim to include for renesas-drivers releases
+10:09 < pinchartl> Topic 4. Agenda for the multimedia face to face meeting in Berlin
+10:09 < pinchartl> ok
+10:10 < pinchartl> - Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks
+10:11 < pinchartl> in real alphabetical order today
+10:11 < pinchartl> Kieran, you're first
+10:11 < kbingham> hehe I feel privilidged :D
+10:11 < pinchartl> (in the usual "what did I do, what do I plan to do, what problems do I have" format)
+10:13 < kbingham> Since last meetinng, I have worked on VSP Partitioning Algorithm, now submitted and next plan a short task to assist geertu, as he has had to drop FDP1 from his tree. No particular problems at the moment.
+10:14 < kbingham> Oh - actually - I do have a small problem.
+10:14 < kbingham> Current tests still aren't running clean for me on the VSP. - So I'll see what that is first.
+10:15 < pinchartl> nice work on the VSP
+10:15 < pinchartl> regarding the FDP, I've posted a v3 of the patches which you have reviewed (thanks for that)
+10:15 < pinchartl> now that everything is in order I'll push my branch and will ask Geert to merge it
+10:16 < pinchartl> so there's no need for you to get bothered with that
+10:16 < kbingham> That's a good solution to assist Geert :D
+10:16 < pinchartl> if you're now bored I have new tasks for you for Q4 which you could get started with :-)
+10:16 < pinchartl> let's discuss them as part of the second topic
+10:16 < kbingham> ;)
+10:17 < pinchartl> regarding the VSP tests, which one(s) are failing for you ?
+10:17 -!- morimoto [~user@relprex3.renesas.com] has joined #periperi
+10:17 < pinchartl> hello Morimoto-san !
+10:17 < kbingham> Test 1, 2, "yuv_to_rgbpnm: bad format"
+10:17 < pinchartl> Geert was wondering if you were busy working on a new son :-D
+10:18 < morimoto> sorry for my late
+10:18 < morimoto> pinchartl: hehe :)
+10:19 < pinchartl> kbingham: could you try to update raw2rgbpnm to the latest version ?
+10:19 < kbingham> pinchartl: did something change there?
+10:20 < pinchartl> "Add support for missing YUV 4:1:1, 4:2:0, 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 planar formats"
+10:20 < pinchartl> that's not very recent though
+10:20 < pinchartl> we can discuss this after the meeting
+10:21 < kbingham> Yes, I dno't think this is topic for this meeting.
+10:21 < pinchartl> and regarding your plan for the next two weeks, I assume you'll also write the VSP image partitioning task report for Jinzai, right ? :-)
+10:21 < kbingham> Ah yes :)
+10:21 * kbingham whistles loudly pretending he hadn't forgotten about that.
+10:22 < pinchartl> thanks for the report
+10:22 < pinchartl> next, me
+10:22 < pinchartl> Since last meeting:
+10:22 < pinchartl> - Posted v3 of the FDP driver
+10:22 < pinchartl> - VSP image partitioning support
+10:22 < pinchartl> - DU and VSP integration on H3
+10:23 < pinchartl> For the next two weeks:
+10:23 < pinchartl> - Continue working on the FDP driver to get it merged upstream
+10:23 < pinchartl> - VIN and HDMI output patch review
+10:23 < pinchartl> ah, I forgot to mention, I've also worked on
+10:23 < pinchartl> - Rebased VSP HGO and HGT support
+10:24 < kbingham> And ROT/FLIP
+10:24 < pinchartl> yes, that's part of image partitioning, but it's worth mentioning it explicitly
+10:25 < pinchartl> and, just for the fun of it, reverse-engineered the VSP RGB to HSV transformation to include emulation code in the test suite :-)
+10:26 < pinchartl> morimoto: I forgot to reply to your e-mail, but less than 24h after you've told Niklas and me that the hardware team couldn't share the information because it was confidential, we managed to understand how it worked
+10:26 < morimoto> pinchartl: we are sorry about that
+10:27 < morimoto> Is it needed for test program, correct ?
+10:28 < pinchartl> yes
+10:28 < pinchartl> but it's fine now
+10:28 < morimoto> OK
+10:28 < pinchartl> we have fixed the problem, we know how it works
+10:28 < pinchartl> we will have a similar issue with the UDS though:
+10:28 < pinchartl> Issues and Blockers:
+10:28 < pinchartl> - VSP test suite generates false positives in UDS testing
+10:28 < pinchartl> This is caused by the emulation code scaling images with a method very different from the one used by the UDS, resulting in a need for a fuzzy comparison between the hardware output and the expected results with a too high threshold.
+10:30 < pinchartl> in the next two weeks, I will also continue working on VSP HGO and HGT, as Mauro isn't convinced by the API proposal
+10:30 < morimoto> About your "Issues and Blockers", do you need HW team help ?
+10:31 < pinchartl> it would be nice to get more information about how the scaler operates, but I expect the same "this is confidential" answer :-/
+10:31 < pinchartl> but it's worth asking
+10:31 < pinchartl> this will likely be a task for the second half of Q4
+10:31 < morimoto> OK, I will try, no expectation
+10:32 < pinchartl> arigatō gozaimasu
+10:32 < morimoto> Can you please add detail background on meeting report ?
+10:32 < pinchartl> yes I will
+10:32 < pinchartl> next, Morimoto-san
+10:32 < morimoto> arigato
+10:32 < morimoto> OK
+10:33 < morimoto> I'm posting ALSA SoC patches to ML, but it seems Maintenor is focus to next kernel ?
+10:33 < morimoto> so, nothing happen on my patches
+10:33 < morimoto> I negotiated to Lars and Mark to discuss about ALSA SoC framework cleanup
+10:34 < morimoto> and for new style ALSA SoC. I can talk it on ELCE timing
+10:34 < morimoto> And BSP team is now focusing about Audio-DMAC power
+10:34 < morimoto> As I asked on PeriPeriML, it is related to DMAEngine behavior
+10:35 < pinchartl> please let me know if you would like me to join the discussion during ELCE
+10:35 < morimoto> Thank. I'm happy if you can join to it.
+10:35 < morimoto> it will be 2nd day, lunch timing
+10:35 < morimoto> after Lars's presentation
+10:36 < pinchartl> that works for me
+10:36 < morimoto> About DMAEngine, rcar-dmac will power ON for Audio-DMAC when sound driver requests DMA channel
+10:36 < morimoto> and power OFF when sound driver release it.
+10:36 < morimoto> In my driver, it requests channel when .probe timing
+10:37 < morimoto> this means, Audio DMAC is always ON
+10:37 < pinchartl> right, I've seen your e-mail
+10:37 < morimoto> which is correct approach
+10:37 < morimoto> ?
+10:37 < pinchartl> that's more of a core topic
+10:37 < morimoto> Oops
+10:37 < pinchartl> but in a nutshell, I think it would be good to optimize power consumption
+10:37 < pinchartl> and only keep the hardware powered on when needed
+10:38 < pinchartl> the issue there is that you need to call pm_runtime_get_sync() to power the hardware on
+10:38 < pinchartl> which can't be called in atomic context
+10:38 < pinchartl> and dma_async_issue_pending() needs to be callable in atomic context
+10:38 < pinchartl> so to fix this we would likely need to extend the DMA engine API
+10:39 < pinchartl> but to get sucha change accepted
+10:39 < pinchartl> we need to provide power consumption numbers
+10:39 < morimoto> It is not Renesas specific issue, correct ?
+10:39 < pinchartl> so we need to measure the extra power consumption caused by keeping the DMA engine powered on while not in use
+10:39 < pinchartl> correct
+10:40 < morimoto> Actually, I already created above patches. it request/release each times
+10:40 < pinchartl> is that changes for the DMA engine driver or for the ALSA driver ?
+10:40 < morimoto> Do you think I should post it to ML ? or keep it in my pocket ?
+10:40 < morimoto> ALSA driver side only
+10:40 < pinchartl> that's the second idea I was going to propose
+10:41 < pinchartl> keep powering the DMA engine on in dma_request_channel()
+10:41 < pinchartl> (or rather device_alloc_chan_resources())
+10:41 < pinchartl> but move the dma_request_channel() from ALSA driver .probe() to a later point
+10:41 < pinchartl> I think those patches would be sense to be posted
+10:42 < morimoto> OK
+10:42 < morimoto> This means, request/release happen many times. is this correct ?
+10:43 < pinchartl> yes
+10:43 < pinchartl> well, more than currently at leas
+10:43 < pinchartl> t
+10:43 < morimoto> OK. nice to know. I can be your father if you want :)
+10:43 < pinchartl> I don't think my current father would be happy about that :-)
+10:43 < morimoto> hehe :)
+10:43 < morimoto> That's it from me
+10:44 < pinchartl> what's your plan for the next two weeks ?
+10:45 < morimoto> About patches, it is based on Maintenor.
+10:45 < morimoto> I need to post more patches, but these are based on current patches.
+10:45 < morimoto> If no update on ML, I will do Renesas side task
+10:45 < pinchartl> ok
+10:46 < pinchartl> thank you
+10:46 < pinchartl> next, Niklas
+10:46 < neg> a) Posted HGT patches, I see minimal work left to keep them up to date until they can be picked up
+10:46 < neg> b) Start to work on VIN for M3 and rebase VIN Gen3 patches
+10:46 < neg> c) No review on VIN Gen3 patches
+10:47 < neg> also if there is time update the vsp-tests tool to take overlaping HGT hue areas in to account
+10:47 < pinchartl> for the HGT, let's sync up on that after the meeting, I'll take your patches in my tree
+10:47 < neg> ok
+10:47 < pinchartl> I have done so already, probably a slightly different version, that's why we need to sync up
+10:48 < pinchartl> regarding the VIN Gen3 patches, they were on my todo list after last meeting, but I had to focus on the VSP :-/
+10:48 < pinchartl> I'll really try to get to them ASAP
+10:48 < pinchartl> you had a quick question about what work to aim to include for renesas-drivers releases ?
+10:49 < neg> np :-)
+10:49 < neg> I have tried to keep the VIN Gen3 patches ready for renesas-drivers but have not always sucseeded in keeping them up to date. And since they seems to be a long way from beeing pickedup I was wondering if I should drop them from the patches I try to get in to renesas-drivers so Geert don't have to deal with any conflicts that series cause. If you see value in having them in renesas-drivers I will rejuvenate
+10:49 < neg> my effort to keep them up to date at all times.
+10:50 < pinchartl> geertu: any opinion on that ?
+10:53 < pinchartl> renesas-drivers is a -next tree that is a bit more agressive than -next. it serves as a way to catch integration (as in merging multiple development branches) issues early
+10:53 < pinchartl> including Gen3 VIN support in renesas-drivers is thus useful when you post a new version of the patch series
+10:53 < pinchartl> but after that, if it starts generating painful conflicts, it likely means a new version of the series will be needed anyway
+10:54 < pinchartl> so I wouldn't insist in keeping the code in renesas-drivers at all times
+10:55 < neg> ok, I will continue to try and keep them up to date and included in renesas-drivers then
+10:55 < pinchartl> please submit them for inclusion when you post a new version of the patches
+10:55 < pinchartl> but don't spend an unnecessary large amount of time keeping them up-to-date between two versions
+10:56 < neg> make sens
+10:57 < pinchartl> thanks
+10:57 < pinchartl> next, uli___
+10:58 < uli___> a)
+10:58 < uli___> - kept the salvator hdmi out alive (build failure; want to convert it to soc_device_match() before sending a new revision)
+10:59 < uli___> - checked if it works without the funky cma reservation patch (it does, it's sufficient to increase the cma size)
+10:59 < uli___> - started looking into gen2 vin integration in earnest (see c) )
+10:59 < uli___> b) finish gen2 vin integration
+10:59 < uli___> c) i don't have hardware docs for the gose board
+10:59 < uli___> can somebody set me up with those?
+10:59 < uli___> [that's it]
+11:00 < pinchartl> do you regarding Gen2 VIN integration, that's due for the 18th, so I assume you'll finish it before two weeks ? :-)
+11:00 < pinchartl> s/do you //
+11:00 < uli___> yes
+11:01 < pinchartl> thanks
+11:02 < pinchartl> what's the status of DU,v4.9,public,ulrich,EDID generation support for the HDMI loopback test setup ?
+11:02 < uli___> that's part of the hdmi in series, i'll send that out with gose support added before the due date
+11:03 < pinchartl> perfect, thanks
+11:03 < uli___> provided somebody can get me the docs...
+11:03 < uli___> morimoto: HINT
+11:03 < pinchartl> do you mean the schematics ?
+11:03 < uli___> yes
+11:03 < pinchartl> do you have a GPG key ?
+11:03 < uli___> afraid not
+11:04 < pinchartl> can you create one ? :-)
+11:04 < uli___> is there an alternative? [i have no clue about that]
+11:04 < pinchartl> morimoto: can I send the Gose schematics to Ulrich by e-mail without encryption ?
+11:05 < morimoto> Hmm..
+11:05 < morimoto> Now, it is under your NDA or export side issue
+11:05 < morimoto> (I wonder why you have it ?)
+11:05 < pinchartl> let's assume I don't have it :-)
+11:05 < morimoto> Hehe :)
+11:05 < morimoto> uli___: I will ask to Renesas guy
+11:06 < uli___> thank you
+11:06 < morimoto> but few availability
+11:06 < pinchartl> availability of the schematics ?
+11:07 < morimoto> maybe
+11:07 < pinchartl> we're not asking for a board to be sent, just a document :-)
+11:07 < morimoto> Hehe, OK
+11:08 < pinchartl> thanks
+11:08 < pinchartl> that's it for the status update
+11:08 < pinchartl> Topic 2. Additional tasks for Q4 2016
+11:09 < pinchartl> here are the additional tasks that will very likely be assigned to all of you for Q4
+11:09 -!- Irssi: Pasting 7 lines to #periperi. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel.
+11:09 < pinchartl> Laurent:
+11:09 < pinchartl> - M3-W DU support (5 days)
+11:09 < pinchartl> - LVDS mode selection for DU (5 days)
+11:09 < pinchartl> Kieran:
+11:09 < pinchartl> - DU write-back V4L2 prototype (10 days)
+11:09 < pinchartl> - VSP image partitioning performance optimization (5 days)
+11:10 -!- Irssi: Pasting 6 lines to #periperi. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel.
+11:10 < pinchartl> Niklas:
+11:10 < pinchartl> - M3-W VIN prototype support (5 days)
+11:10 < pinchartl> Ulrich:
+11:10 < pinchartl> - Audio loopback test program to test sampling rate and L-R issues (10 days)
+11:10 < pinchartl> - DU Gen3 HDMI output upstream preparation (Channel 0 only) (5 days)
+11:10 < pinchartl> I'll reach out to everybody with more detailed descriptions
+11:10 < pinchartl> but if you already have questions, please go ahead
+11:10 < morimoto> Is it updated version from Magnus ?
+11:10 < pinchartl> (that's for the first half of Q4 only, the second half will follow later)
+11:11 < morimoto> (I talked it with him, this morning)
+11:11 < pinchartl> yes, that's from the e-mail he sent me a few hours ago
+11:11 < morimoto> OK, nice to know
+11:12 < morimoto> pinchartl: can you please add these tasks into peripelist todo list ?
+11:12 < pinchartl> I will first write the detailed descriptions and get them approved, and I'll then add them to the todo list, sure
+11:13 < morimoto> Thanks.
+11:13 < pinchartl> Topic 3. Status update for Renesas on the multimedia todo list
+11:14 < pinchartl> Morimoto-san told me that Renesas would like a status update on the following
+11:14 -!- Irssi: Pasting 8 lines to #periperi. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel.
+11:14 < pinchartl> DU,2016-12-31,request,?,M3
+11:14 < pinchartl> DU,2016-06-30,request,ulrich,HDMI out ES1.1 support
+11:14 < pinchartl> VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,solve UDS scaling regression for Gen3
+11:14 < pinchartl> VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,give information to Renesas about rotation status
+11:14 < pinchartl> VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,give information to Renesas about write-back feature plan
+11:14 < pinchartl> VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,ES2.0 / M3 update
+11:14 < pinchartl> VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,update request API on renesas-driver
+11:14 < pinchartl> VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,vsp1_pm_suspend() bugfix
+11:14 < pinchartl> VSP,2016-10-30,request,laurent,VSP cache less support for BSP team
+11:15 < morimoto> Yes, thanks. I will remove these if it was in todo list
+11:15 < pinchartl> - DU,2016-12-31,request,?,M3
+11:15 < pinchartl> there's an additional task for the first half of Q4
+11:15 < pinchartl> - DU,2016-06-30,request,ulrich,HDMI out ES1.1 support
+11:16 < pinchartl> Ulrich, any information about that ?
+11:16 < uli___> not really. morimoto gave me info on how to implement that quite a while ago, but it does not seem to help
+11:16 < uli___> morimoto: right?
+11:16 < morimoto> Oops ?
+11:17 < uli___> i mean, it still doesn't work on es1.1, right?
+11:17 < morimoto> Ah, sorry, it was different story
+11:17 < morimoto> My issue which was few weeks ago was my side fault
+11:17 < morimoto> It was firmware issue.
+11:18 < morimoto> So please forget it.
+11:18 < uli___> that's good news :)
+11:18 < morimoto> So, missing is only ES1.1 handling
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+11:19 < morimoto> But it is related to Geert's ES handling magic ?
+11:19 -!- khiemnguyen [d2a0fca8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.210.160.252.168] has joined #periperi
+11:19 < uli___> yes, i'll look into that
+11:19 < morimoto> OK. I will keep it under request file until next step
+11:20 < pinchartl> uli___: do you think you can address that as part of either your base contract or the new "DU Gen3 HDMI output upstream preparation" task for Q4 ?
+11:20 < uli___> yes, i think so
+11:20 < morimoto> Nice to know !
+11:20 < pinchartl> thank you
+11:20 < pinchartl> - VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,solve UDS scaling regression for Gen3
+11:21 < pinchartl> - VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,give information to Renesas about rotation status
+11:21 < pinchartl> this depends on image partitioning support that is now public
+11:21 < pinchartl> both have been tested and are working
+11:21 < pinchartl> - VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,give information to Renesas about write-back feature plan
+11:21 < morimoto> OK. nice. I will remove these. But I can't find "UDS" word on todo list
+11:22 < pinchartl> that's because there was nothing UDS-specific that had to be done
+11:22 < pinchartl> implementing image partitioning fixed it
+11:22 < morimoto> OK
+11:22 < pinchartl> - VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,give information to Renesas about write-back feature plan
+11:22 < pinchartl> will be assigned to Kieran as an additional task for the first half of Q4
+11:23 < pinchartl> - VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,ES2.0 / M3 update
+11:23 < pinchartl> will be handled as part of the DU M3 integration, assigned to me as an additional task for the first half of Q4
+11:23 < pinchartl> - VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,update request API on renesas-driver
+11:23 < morimoto> About, Write-back, it is next Kieran's task ?
+11:23 < morimoto> I can remove it if todo list has it
+11:23 < morimoto> correct ?
+11:24 < pinchartl> please wait until the task get officially approved :-)
+11:24 < morimoto> :) OK
+11:24 < pinchartl> I'll then move it from the request file to the todo file
+11:24 < pinchartl> - VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,update request API on renesas-driver
+11:25 < pinchartl> I'll update the patch series before ELCE and send a pull request to Geert for renesas-drivers
+11:25 < morimoto> you can handle only todo list, Renesas side will update request file
+11:25 < pinchartl> (ok)
+11:25 < pinchartl> my plan is to do so before kernel recipes, which is in two weeks in Paris
+11:26 < pinchartl> but it might overflow to the week before ELCE
+11:26 < pinchartl> at the latest it will be done before ELCE
+11:26 < pinchartl> - VSP,2016-06-30,request,laurent,vsp1_pm_suspend() bugfix
+11:26 < morimoto> Request API do you mean ?
+11:26 < pinchartl> (yes)
+11:26 < pinchartl> this has been proposed as an additional task for Q4, but Magnus told me that it needs to be discussed internally in Renesas first
+11:26 < pinchartl> - VSP,2016-10-30,request,laurent,VSP cache less support for BSP team
+11:27 < pinchartl> this has also been proposed as an additional task for Q4, and will possibly be accepted for the second batch
+11:27 < pinchartl> it will be discussed face to face in Berlin first
+11:27 < pinchartl> as it's not clear yet how to proceed
+11:27 < morimoto> What is the problem about VSP1 PM suspen d?
+11:27 < pinchartl> it doesn't work :-)
+11:27 < pinchartl> suspend/resume is broken
+11:27 < morimoto> Ahh OK
+11:28 < pinchartl> it might even crash the kernel, I don't remember exactly
+11:28 < morimoto> OK, thanks
+11:28 < morimoto> And, I think I sent request about mising format something.
+11:28 < morimoto> BSP team created local patch, do you remember ?
+11:29 < pinchartl> here's the description of the problem I sent to Magnus
+11:29 < pinchartl> The VSP suspend/resume code is known to be broken and needs to be fixed. This is further complicated by the fact that the VSP memory accesses are served by the FCP on Gen3, creating a suspend/resume dependency between the two devices.
+11:29 < pinchartl> The VSP suspend/resume problem should be self-contained, but the FCP dependency would require dependencies support in the PM core. Work is ongoing in that area, and I believe we should take a more active role there. This isn't very suitable for additional tasks as they exist today as no deliverable can be guaranteed in a fixed amount of time.
+11:29 < pinchartl> It might be possible to work around the problem by using the early/late suspend/resume handlers in the VSP and FCP drivers. I can't guarantee this at the moment without a more detailed and thus time-consuming analysis, hence the prototype status of this task.
+11:30 < pinchartl> regarding the missing format
+11:30 < pinchartl> was it the tri-planar formats for the DU ?
+11:30 < morimoto> Maybe, I forgot detail
+11:30 < pinchartl> so did I :-)
+11:31 < pinchartl> but triplanar formats support has been merged
+11:31 < morimoto> OK, nice
+11:31 < pinchartl> any other question regarding the requests ?
+11:32 < morimoto> nothing from me. Thanks
+11:32 < pinchartl> you're welcome
+11:32 < pinchartl> Topic 4. Agenda for the multimedia face to face meeting in Berlin
+11:32 < pinchartl> we need to start drafting the agenda
+11:32 < pinchartl> I'd like everybody to propose topics by e-mail in response to the chat report I will send
+11:32 < pinchartl> and you can start now if you already have ideas in mind
+11:33 < morimoto> I created Wiki page.
+11:33 < morimoto> https://osdr.renesas.com/projects/linux-kernel-development/wiki/Miniperi-2016-10
+11:33 < pinchartl> thank you
+11:33 < kbingham> morimoto: Could I get an account to OSDR please?
+11:34 < morimoto> Oopd, I will try. Please wait
+11:34 < kbingham> np.
+11:34 < morimoto> Maybe it will be after tomorrow
+11:34 < pinchartl> morimoto: I think you can remove "What is the current status of "Rotation + ImagePertition" ?" and "Z-order" from the wiki page
+11:34 < pinchartl> Z-order has been merged
+11:34 < pinchartl> and patches for rotation + image partition have been posted yesterday
+11:34 < morimoto> OK, but BSP team want to check it. keep it and set "finish" is help for me
+11:35 < pinchartl> ok
+11:35 < morimoto> s/help/helpful
+11:35 < pinchartl> Topic 5. Next meeting
+11:35 < neg> If possible I would like to talk about more pad aware v4l2 operations to you and Hans duinrg the mini multimedia summit (and to whom ever else is interessted ofc), but for periperi multimedia I think we talked about it in Tokyo
+11:36 < pinchartl> neg: that's a good idea. could you propose that by e-mail to Hans ?
+11:36 < neg> will do
+11:37 < pinchartl> thanks
+11:37 < pinchartl> I will attend Kernel Recipes in Paris in two weeks
+11:37 < pinchartl> so I won't be available Wednesday-Friday
+11:37 < pinchartl> and neither will I be available on Monday that week
+11:38 < pinchartl> we could move the meeting to Tuesday, but that would conflict with the core meeting
+11:38 < pinchartl> unless we move it one hour earlier, and keep it short
+11:38 < pinchartl> another option is to hold the meeting on Wednesday without me
+11:38 < pinchartl> thoughts ?
+11:39 < morimoto> Wednesday = 28th ?
+11:39 < pinchartl> yes
+11:39 < neg> short meeting before core works for me, I think you should be in the meeting if possible
+11:40 < pinchartl> given that it will be the last one before Berlin, I'd like to attend it, yes
+11:40 < pinchartl> we'll keep the status update very short
+11:40 < pinchartl> and focus on the agenda for the Berlin meeting
+11:41 < pinchartl> so that would be 2016-09-27 at 08:00 BST / 09:00 CEST / 10:00
+11:41 < pinchartl> EEST / 16:00 JST
+11:42 < neg> works for me
+11:42 < morimoto> I booked
+11:42 < uli___> ok
+11:44 < pinchartl> thank you
+11:44 < pinchartl> that's it for today
+11:44 < pinchartl> thank you all for joinin