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+--- Log opened Mon Mar 14 08:55:30 2016
+08:55 -!- wsa_ [~wsa@p4FE25CE7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #periperi-io
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+08:56 <@horms> hi wsa_ 
+08:59 < wsa_> hi simon
+08:59 <@horms> how are things?
+09:02 < wsa_> windy :D
+09:02 -!- shimoda [~shimoda@relprex2.renesas.com] has joined #periperi-io
+09:03 < wsa_> lots of things are changing currently
+09:03 < wsa_> this is nothing bad per se, but needs lot of attention
+09:03 <@horms> good luck :)
+09:03 -!- geertu [~geert@d54c36a7b.access.telenet.be] has joined #periperi-io
+09:03 < wsa_> thanks!
+09:03 < wsa_> hello shimoda-san
+09:04 < shimoda> hello wolfram-san
+09:04 < geertu> (sorry, i was in the wrong channel)
+09:06 < wsa_> geertu: no worries, i'll be in both channels and point to this one if necessary
+09:06 -!- morimoto [~user@relprex1.renesas.com] has joined #periperi-io
+09:06 < morimoto> Hi
+09:07 <@horms> Hi Morimoto-san, hi Geert
+09:07 < geertu> {Mor,Eve}nin' again ;-)
+09:08 < wsa_> Hi Morimoto-san
+09:08 < wsa_> so, we are all here
+09:08 < wsa_> let's start
+09:09 < wsa_> looking at the patches in renesas-soc, I didn't see much  updates to the todo.
+09:09 < wsa_> Please update me if I missed something
+09:09 < geertu> MSIOF,v4.6,plan,geert,Investigate issues on Gen3 => complete
+09:10 < wsa_> I wonder though, if we should add some tasks which are happening but haven't been formalized yet?
+09:10 < wsa_> like the review support for the CAN driver?
+09:11 < wsa_> or the DMA support for ravb (by Kaneko-san)?
+09:11 < wsa_> opinions on this?
+09:11 <@horms> Kaneko-san's work is covered by tasks in the upporting portion of the wiki etc...
+09:11 < geertu> IMHO review is part of the job
+09:11 <@horms> I don't object to you adding tasks too, but just so you know that I am tracking his work
+09:12 < wsa_> ok, so this is considered upporting because it comes from the BSP. fair enough
+09:12 <@horms> I would be more inclined to add a can task and assign it to whoever is working on it, even if they are outside the group. But I have no strong opinions here
+09:13 <@horms> wsa_: yes, its coming from the bsp. obviously it also overlaps with this group
+09:14 < wsa_> geertu: that was a HW issue with MSIOF, right?
+09:14 < geertu> I aree it's a good idea to add can dev to the task list
+09:14 <@horms> on the subject of can: i think we should at some point discuss if we want to merge r8a779[34] support even though no board exposes the hw
+09:14 < geertu> wsa_: yes
+09:14 < geertu> wsa_: and bsp workaround is not sufficient
+09:15 < wsa_> horms: that would be applying untested patches to the dtsi?
+09:15 <@horms> wsa_: yes
+09:16 <@horms> as it stands i have posted the (untested) patches
+09:16 < wsa_> i am not strong on this one, but i don't like
+09:16 <@horms> so they exist in the archives and people can fish them out
+09:16 < wsa_> that's great
+09:16 <@horms> i'm inclined to leave them in that state until we can test them: probably forever
+09:17 < wsa_> or someone else can test them
+09:17 <@horms> right
+09:17  * wsa_ stops daydreaming
+09:17 < wsa_> so what do you envision for the CAN task?
+09:17 <@horms> the other alternative is to merge them. someone can still test them in future. but they may also assume they have already been tested which is (likely) false
+09:18 <@horms> well, the above discussion asside. i see two areas of real can work going on
+09:18 <@horms> supporting can on r8a7795. and supporting canfd
+09:18 < geertu> I guess we already have many device nodes that haven't been tested?
+09:18 <@horms> yes, that is the other side of the coin
+09:19 <@horms> perhaps not many but surely there are some
+09:19 < geertu> Like SCIFs, MSIOFs, MMCs?
+09:19 <@horms> perhaps some that we can more reasonably expect to be tested than others
+09:19 <@horms> right
+09:20 < geertu> At least we try to review additions to .dtsi
+09:20 < geertu> which is harder for e.g. all the pinctrl data.
+09:20 <@horms> yes, i agree there
+09:20 < geertu> (not the pins, but the bits in registers)
+09:20 < wsa_> isn't adding r8a7795 support an integration task?
+09:21 <@horms> in general the changes are based on similar nodes that are known to work. e.g. for another soc which is documented to work the same way. or other ports on the same soc that are documented to work the same way
+09:21 < wsa_> canfd is surely an io task
+09:21 <@horms> seems pretty io to me :)
+09:22 < wsa_> as a maintainer, I hardly accept untested patches
+09:22 <@horms> As far as I can tell Ramesh hopes to get his work merged soon. He was asking me privately about merging his dtsi changes recently
+09:22 < geertu> horms: Indeed. Following that logic, adding can nodes for r8a779[34] should be OK
+09:22 < wsa_> but I encourage people to send them nonetheless
+09:23 < wsa_> which is exactly what happened here
+09:23 < wsa_> :)
+09:23 <@horms> geertu: yes, i agree with that line of thinking. to be honest i could flip a coin on this one
+09:24 < wsa_> morimoto: any news about khim-san?
+09:24 < geertu> khim-san = khiem-san?
+09:24 < wsa_> oh, sorry
+09:24 <@horms> wsa_: there is an argument to be made that the dtsi nodes document the hw. we can see the pdf documentation but most people can't
+09:24 < shimoda> wsa_: about thermal or power management things?
+09:24 < wsa_> thermal
+09:25 < wsa_> there was this idea that he should do the H3 thermal driver?
+09:26 < shimoda> morimoto-san and I have a F2F meeting in 25th March. so, we have no update about thermal
+09:27 < wsa_> ok, i'll just wait then until you have some news about the task
+09:27 < wsa_> until then it keeps assigned to morimoto-san
+09:27 < shimoda> thanks
+09:28 < wsa_> shimoda: we have the I2C DMA task scheduled for 2016-05-31. Is the date still up-to-date?
+09:29 < shimoda> this date is related to the bsp schedule. and i guess it can be changed at 2016-06-30 because
+09:30 < shimoda> the bsp schedule is changed :)
+09:30 < wsa_> i will do that
+09:31 < shimoda> thanks
+09:31 < wsa_> i also updated your extcon entry, just saw the public patches:
+09:31 < wsa_> USBPHY,v4.7,public,shimoda,add extcon support
+09:32 < shimoda> wsa_: yes
+09:33 < shimoda> and i will also try to make a prototype of OTG (actually role-swithing) support in this month.
+09:33 < wsa_> cool
+09:34 < wsa_> I dunno if this makes sense, but IMO this patch could be pointed to the BSP team:
+09:34 < wsa_> [PATCH 06/10] mmc: tmio: stop clock when 0Hz is requested
+09:34 < wsa_> I couldn't find anything like this in the Gen2/3 BSP
+09:35 < wsa_> and it really makes a difference for me. Without, I can't access SanDisk and Samsung cards in UHS modes
+09:35 < shimoda> thank you! i will forward this information to the BSP team
+09:35 < wsa_> (I have to admit I didn't build the Gen2-BSP kernel yet to actually check)
+09:36 < shimoda> wsa_: ahh, if gen3, i guess you should change the DRV value for some UHS cards
+09:37 < wsa_> so far, UHS support is Gen2 only
+09:37 < wsa_> Gen3 is missing DMA still. But this will be next.
+09:37 < wsa_> but I'll keep that in mind!
+09:38 < shimoda> wsa_: i see about UHS support.
+09:38 < shimoda> about gen3 DMA. I found a hw issue :)
+09:39 < wsa_> uh
+09:39 < shimoda> i will send an email about the detail to periperi later
+09:39 < wsa_> ok
+09:39 < wsa_> thanks
+09:40 < shimoda> oops, "gen3 DMA" means just SDHI-DMAC, not sys-dmac
+09:40 < wsa_> i am definately interested in that one ;)
+09:40 < wsa_> so, that's all the points I have
+09:40 < wsa_> any more news from your side?
+09:41 < morimoto> nothing from Renesas
+09:41 < geertu> Not really. Just working with my good ol' friend SCIF again.
+09:42 < wsa_> geertu: FIFO or flow control?
+09:43 < geertu> wsa_: I'm starting wuith flow control. Will continue with FIFO/
+09:44 < wsa_> ok
+09:45 < geertu> wsa_: The former implies DT binding updates, so better do that early.
+09:45 < wsa_> yes
+09:45 < wsa_> let's call it done then
+09:46 < wsa_> thanks guys!
+09:46 <@horms> thanks!
+09:46 < shimoda> thank you!
+09:46 < morimoto> wsa_: 1 question. 
+09:46 < wsa_> sure
+09:47 < morimoto> Do you want invite khiem-san to chat meeting ?
+09:47 < morimoto> (not #periperi, but #periperi-io or #renesas-something)
+09:48 < wsa_> if he does io-related work, sure
+09:48 < morimoto> OK, thanks
+09:48 <@horms> fwiw I registered #renesas-soc
+09:48 < morimoto> horms: cool ! thanks
+09:48 <@horms> feel free to use it as you see fit
+09:49 < morimoto> Thanks!
+09:49 < morimoto> Thank you IO chat meeting. see you
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+09:50 < geertu> bye
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+--- Log closed Mon Mar 14 09:56:31 2016