Multimedia-chat-meeting-2017-01-11 <pinchartl> good morning [16:58] <morimoto> morning <uli___> morning <neg> morning [16:59] <pinchartl> Kieran seems to have left the channel during the night. perhaps as a consequence of too much birthday partying :-) <pinchartl> any chance Magnus would join today ? [17:00] <morimoto> I have no idea about him :) [17:01] <pinchartl> I think I'll stop expecting him to join :-) <morimoto> :) [17:02] <pinchartl> let's start then. I expect the meeting to be short today *** kbingham (~kbingham@core.do.nakedgeek.co.uk) has joined channel #periperi <pinchartl> hi Kieran ! <pinchartl> we were about to start <pinchartl> Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks <kbingham> sorry for being late - my IRC bouncer crashed :( <pinchartl> Topic 2. Additional tasks for Q1 2017 <pinchartl> Topic 3. FOSDEM [17:03] <pinchartl> Topic 4. Next meeting <pinchartl> anything else for the agenda ? <pinchartl> no worries <morimoto> ELC meeting plan I want to know <pinchartl> ok, FOSDEM & ELC then <pinchartl> let's get started with Topic 1. Status check for the multimedia tasks [17:05] <pinchartl> Kieran, will you do the honours ? <kbingham> pinchartl: I thought you might say that :D <kbingham> So - to start, since last meeting: <kbingham> - Holidays [17:06] <kbingham> - Had my birthday <kbingham> - Suspend resume patches reposted <kbingham> - Rebased all my topic branches <kbingham> And I'm currently working on the image partitioning overlap topic <kbingham> So B) Plan until next meeting: [17:07] <kbingham> - At two weeks away, I hope I will have made most of the headway to getting the image partitioning task complete, possibly mixed in with some of the work on the vsp-test improvements - but with no confirmation from renesas, I guess those topics could stop at any time. [17:08] <kbingham> leaving C) <kbingham> - current work still pending contract from Renesas [17:09] <kbingham> - Experiencing some issues on vsp-unit-test-0003.sh <kbingham> : EOT : Sorry - Would normally prepare the text for this in advance - but finished early due to my birthday yesterday :D [17:10] <pinchartl> thank you [17:11] <kbingham> pinchartl: Is there anything you'd like me to do on the pending topic branches? [17:12] <pinchartl> could you push them to your public tree ? I'll review the patches you posted <kbingham> Ok - I'll push my rebased updates. <kbingham> Should they be re-emailed? [17:13] <pinchartl> not if it's just a rebase, I'll review them first [17:14] <pinchartl> if they have otherwise changed, please resend them <kbingham> Ok. [17:15] <pinchartl> next in alphabetical order, me <pinchartl> Since last meeting: <pinchartl> - Holidays [17:16] <pinchartl> - New version of the Gen3 HDMI output patches (split in topic branches) <pinchartl> - Started experimenting with fences in the DU driver <pinchartl> - DRM/KMS community discussions to get the LVDS mode select, LVDS encoder and HDMI output merged (or at least closer to be merged) <pinchartl> - Helped Jinzai to test HDMI output <pinchartl> For the next two weeks: <pinchartl> - Pending VSP patch review <pinchartl> - Continue advancing Gen3 HDMI output towards merging <pinchartl> - V4L2 & media controller race conditions meeting in Oslo with Hans Verkuil & Sakari Ailus <pinchartl> (that's this Friday) <pinchartl> Issues and blockers: <pinchartl> - No additional task yet for 2017/Q1 [17:17] <pinchartl> and I will be on holidays from the 20th to the 28th <kbingham> pinchartl: Of january? [17:18] <pinchartl> yes <kbingham> pinchartl: Ok :D <pinchartl> skiing in the French Alps <pinchartl> I'll have e-mail access <neg> pinchartl: will you also discusss Media Device Allocator API in Oslo (that is if it's to be pushed or dropped)? [17:19] <pinchartl> morimoto: that's a topic we've discussed already, but I had to hand-hold Jinzai because they seemed not to be able to select the HDMI driver in the kernel config by themselves... <pinchartl> neg: not as such. we'll discuss what needs to be fixed in order to get that API merged <pinchartl> I want to fix the current code base before building anything new on top of it <neg> ok thanks for the update [17:20] <pinchartl> next, Morimoto-san [17:21] <morimoto> OK <morimoto> A) - Enjoyed New Year <morimoto> - I posted ALSA SoC framework fixup patches <morimoto> - Helped BSP team about sound [17:22] <morimoto> B) I will rebase my HDMI sound on pinchartl's latest branch <morimoto> - I will book ELC hotel / flight etc <morimoto> C) nothing <morimoto> --EOT-- <pinchartl> thank you <pinchartl> neg: your turn [17:23] <neg> A) Noting (rebasaed all my topic branches on v4.10-rc1 and test them) [17:24] <neg> B) Fix review comments and repost CSI-2 and breakout fixup patches from VIN Gen3 series and repost as seperat series (needad as to not block Wolframs work) and pray that series is reviewd/picked up :-) <neg> C) None <neg> EOT <pinchartl> is it OK with you if I start by reviewing the CSI-2 driver, followed by the VIN driver ? [17:25] <neg> yes, but maybe we can fast track the break out fixup VIN patches as to not block Wolfram? [17:26] <neg> those patches will be small and only deal with Gen2 concepts <pinchartl> oh yes sure [17:27] <neg> thanks <pinchartl> I meant CSI-2 before VIN Gen3, but obviously other VIN patches can go in first <neg> would you prefer I try to get CIS-2 merged before Gen3 VIN patches? <neg> s/CIS/CSI/ [17:28] <pinchartl> it might be easier <pinchartl> but it also makes sense to merge everything anyway <pinchartl> so I have no big preference at the moment <neg> ok then I will stop trying to hold CSI-2 back to be merged after VIN Gen3 and which ever is picked up first is OK <pinchartl> next, uli___ [17:29] <uli___> a) <uli___> - vacation <uli___> - investigated what it takes to get gpu going with binary blobs on gen3 [17:30] <uli___> b) <uli___> - trying not to succumb to the infection that has incapacitated my wife for a week... <uli___> c) <uli___> - add. tasks not finalized yet <uli___> that's it <pinchartl> thank you [17:31] <pinchartl> before going to the next topic <pinchartl> I'd like to thank Morimoto-san for sending his report over e-mail <pinchartl> given that we're just out of the winter holidays, without much to report, I'll ignore the fact that nobody else has <pinchartl> but please remember to post a summary before next meeting [17:32] <pinchartl> Topic 2. Additional tasks for 2017/Q1 <pinchartl> as you all know, we have no additional tasks finalized for 2017/Q1 <pinchartl> there were discussions at the end of last year <pinchartl> and before a conclusion could be reached the winter holidays started and Magnus disappeared [17:33] <pinchartl> I haven't heard anything from him since then <pinchartl> which starts worrying me <morimoto> Magnus disappeared... <pinchartl> morimoto: do you have any information ? <morimoto> I will meet him tomorrow. <morimoto> I will kick him [17:34] <pinchartl> thank you <morimoto> for you guys :) <pinchartl> I've already started working on tasks that will likely be selected for 2017/Q1 <kbingham> wear heavy boots :D <pinchartl> so has Kieran, and from what I've heard today from Ulrich, he did as well <pinchartl> but there's no contract signed yet <pinchartl> so this is really a gesture of good faith <pinchartl> not a situation that I want to experience again in the future <pinchartl> it shows that the task negotiation process doesn't work [17:35] <pinchartl> it's the second time we're late, albeit last time the delay was shorter <pinchartl> so I will request to move back to a single batch per quarter <uli___> i think i would prefer that as well [17:37] <pinchartl> as there seems to be no comment about this, <pinchartl> (oops, except for that comment :-)) <pinchartl> Topic 3. FOSDEM & ELC <pinchartl> we have reserved time for a multimedia meeting on the Thursday before FOSDEM, but given the lack of contracts, and thus the lack of topics to discuss, I don't plan to organize such a meeting [17:38] <pinchartl> I will be in Brussels the whole week before the FOSDEM, so if any of you happens to be there and wants to schedule an ad-hoc meeting, I'll be available [17:39] <pinchartl> I believe Kieran will be there from Wednesday as well [17:40] <kbingham> ACK. <neg> Was not Q2 contract proposals a topic for that meeting? [17:41] <pinchartl> neg: it was, but Magnus won't be there, and we don't have Q1 contracts yet <neg> Ahh I though Magnus would be there, my mistake [17:42] <pinchartl> when will everybody be available in Brussels ? Kieran, you'll be there from Feb the 1st to the 6th, right ? how about Niklas and Ulrich ? <uli___> i won't be there. i've fallen ill every single time i have attended fosdem, and this time i just won't go. no kidding at all. [17:43] <uli___> come back when it's in june <neg> I was planing to arrive on Wed evening to be aviable for Multimedia meeting, but if that is off I think I move my arrival date to Thu evening <pinchartl> ok [17:44] <pinchartl> Morimoto-san wanted to know more about our ELC plans [17:45] <morimoto> Yes. Do we have MM meeting ? <neg> and yes also leving in the morning the 6th. But if there are plans or suspicions of plans for meetings please let me know and I can adjust my schedule <pinchartl> nothing has currently been scheduled, as everything regarding multimedia planning has been on hold since end of December and the lack of contracts [17:46] <pinchartl> officially, right now there's no multimedia team anymore <pinchartl> so before scheduling a meeting, we should sort that out <morimoto> pinchartl: scheduling a meeting = ELC meeting ? or FOSDEM meeting ? [17:47] <pinchartl> both <morimoto> OK <morimoto> and MagPeri is the Key guys ? <pinchartl> he seems to be <morimoto> OK [17:48] <neg> morimoto: which dates do you plan to be at ELC? I think I change my mind and intend to go if I can find a good flight :-) <morimoto> at this point, maybe 20th - 24th <neg> so that would leave the 20th and 24th for possible meeting days ? [17:49] <morimoto> that the reason why I'm asking about meeting :) [17:50] <morimoto> If we have meeting, the plan will be changed <pinchartl> I will arrive on the 18th and leave on the 25th <pinchartl> the 19th (Sunday), 20th and 24th are currently free <pinchartl> but I expect a V4L2 meeting to be scheduled, likely on the 20th <morimoto> pinchartl: Do you think "media-layer" will be discussed on V4L2 meeting ? [17:52] <pinchartl> what do you mean by media-layer ? <morimoto> V4L2 + ALSA need media-layer for OF-graph ? <pinchartl> probably not [17:53] <pinchartl> it will likely be focussed on core media controller problems <neg> OK, in order to be able to book flights maybe we can aim to keep the 24th open for a possible meeting if the contract situation is sorted out? My understanding is that nither Geert nor Wolfram will attend ELC so MM is the only possible meeting at that time? [17:54] <pinchartl> the 24th would be nice <pinchartl> if you can be there on both the 20th and the 24th it would give us some flexibility <pinchartl> and you could join the V4L2 meeting when it will be scheduled :-) [17:55] <neg> cool then I try to book flight to arrive 19 and leave 25 <morimoto> cool. I will re-schedule for ELC <neg> yes if possible I would like to attend the V4L2 meeting, without periperi scheduling collision :-) <pinchartl> last topic [17:56] <pinchartl> Topic 4. Next meeting <pinchartl> I will be on holidays in two weeks from now <pinchartl> so we can schedule a meeting in a week <pinchartl> or in three weeks <pinchartl> one week is likely too short as we have no contract at the moment <pinchartl> 3 weeks seems better <pinchartl> but that might collide with Kieran's travel plans for the FOSDEM [17:57] <pinchartl> (which would give Kieran a good excuse to not attend the meeting :-)) <pinchartl> would wednesday 2017-02-01 at 08:00 GMT / 09:00 CET / 10:00 EET / 17:00 JST work ? <kbingham> it does cut it close ... but its actually probably just about do-able ... as long as I book my taxi to pick me up at the end of the meeting :D [17:58] <pinchartl> :-) <kbingham> So yes, fine by me. <pinchartl> if you have to skip it's not an issue <pinchartl> does it work for everybody else ? <uli___> ok for me <neg> OK for me [17:59] <morimoto> OK for me too <pinchartl> perfect, it's agreed then <pinchartl> I propose adjourning this meeting [18:00] <pinchartl> does anyone second ? <kbingham> seconded and running downstairs to make tea :D <pinchartl> :-) <pinchartl> meeting adjourned <pinchartl> thank you everybody for attending <pinchartl> have a nice day/evening [18:01] <morimoto> Thanks <uli___> see you <neg> thanks all